*Transfer Window 2014/15 Season Rumours/Signings *AKA Man U fans listing every player under the Sun

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FrankJH said:
Except he isnt worth the £50~m that PSG would reportedly want and when /if they are all fit it would be impossible to keep them happy
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Mata went for 40 though?

physichull said:
Latest rumour is that LvG won't sell Welbeck but would be open to a loan deal, be it at Hull City, or elsewhere.
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Maybe with having no CL this season, United feel he could get games elsewhere without damaging the strength of the squad. He's still young as well.
 
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FrankJH said:
Hernandez for a lot of last season, and not unfairly, that he needed more playing time. He deserves a shot at being 1st choice somewhere else imo. I love his charachter and love for the club but is a little too limited for Utd. Absolute bargain for what we paid for him (especialy as we should get nearly double back if we sell this season)
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I'm not sure anyone would pay ~£15m and what would undoubtedly be some hefty wages now. He's OK, but hasn't set the league on fire and it would take quite a bit of faith to buy him at that price. He could win games in a moment, but I fear they'd be too infrequent and need a certain system to work.

He's not unlike another transfer today (Shane Long) in many respects, but contributes less (not that Long contributes much) and is too one-dimensional.

I see a loan move with a view to a permanent transfer as more likely than an outright transfer, but in reality if you're looking to play with two up front in the next few season you'd be better off keeping him.
 
big fan of Hernandez, i think he would do very well playing week in week out, he's not like RVP who requires good service to score, Hernandez just toe pokes and taps the ball over the line by hook or crook. Will do very well at another club where he is number 1 striker.
 
_Jimlad_ said:
big fan of Hernandez, i think he would do very well playing week in week out, he's not like RVP who requires good service to score, Hernandez just toe pokes and taps the ball over the line by hook or crook. Will do very well at another club where he is number 1 striker.
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did you see him during preseason? woeful. if he's not willing to step up, i say get rid.
 
this_is_gav said:
I'm not sure anyone would pay ~£15m and what would undoubtedly be some hefty wages now. He's OK, but hasn't set the league on fire and it would take quite a bit of faith to buy him at that price. He could win games in a moment, but I fear they'd be too infrequent and need a certain system to work.

He's not unlike another transfer today (Shane Long) in many respects, but contributes less (not that Long contributes much) and is too one-dimensional.

I see a loan move with a view to a permanent transfer as more likely than an outright transfer, but in reality if you're looking to play with two up front in the next few season you'd be better off keeping him.
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Dont believe his wages have ever been that much and £15m is a bargain - as said above, playing week in week out a mid table team will get 20 goals/ assists a season from him

When even the relegated teams got 60m last season, paying £15m for a decent striker is nothing at all.

twist3d0n3 said:
did you see him during preseason? woeful. if he's not willing to step up, i say get rid.
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He barely played in the WC, and didnt really play that much in pre-season so probably still short of fitness.

If a team gear themselves around him he will do very well for them - certainly more than enough to justify a relatively small fee
 
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FrankJH said:
He barely played in the WC, and didnt really play that much in pre-season so probably still short of fitness.
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so if not playing 1st team, he sits and eats pizza? the fitness argument is a bit thin tbh. he's low on confidence more than anything, but given the chance to shine in preseason he did NOTHING. christ, even young looked good!
 
Gilly said:
Suarez ban upheld :D

He's allowed to train though
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You just know he is going to play in the El Clasico and score, now he can train Barca will be organizing internal club matches and he is going to be fit and raring to go for the day after his ban ends.

In transfer news, Rekik has gone on loan to PSV again and we have sold Javi Garcia for 13m. Both good bits of business.
 
Sorry, but there's no chance United could sell Welbeck and Hernandez and not get any sort of replacement in. And for the amount they'd have to pay to get a decent 2nd/3rd choice striker, they may as well keep Hernandez, a player who can get the odd goal but is also content to be a backup player.

If United bought a top-drawer forward, like Cavani, there's no way LvG could keep everyone playing and happy.

Hernandez is pretty much perfect for United. Welbeck, on the other hand, can go as far as I'm concerned. He's not quite as happy to play backup and so United have tried to squeeze him into the team in all sorts of positions, none of which he does well at. Let Young, Valencia, Shaw, Rafael play the wide positions, and Rooney, RvP and Hernandez play up front. Mata and Kagawa can cover the attacking mid role, and then there's still Januzaj to provide cover. A top quality wide player, like Cuadrado, wouldn't go amiss though...
 
FYI, Serie A starts on the 30th/31st so there is time for a replacement before the start of the season (speaking about Benatia). Balanta, Basa and Manolas seem like the most likely replacement (if he leaves).

He has been saying he wants to stay, but actions speak louder than words. I'd rather sell than keep him against his will (some players have a tendancy to play poor to push a transfer) £35M (€40M+) sounds fine :)
 
FrankJH said:
Dont believe his wages have ever been that much and £15m is a bargain - as said above, playing week in week out a mid table team will get 20 goals/ assists a season from him

When even the relegated teams got 60m last season, paying £15m for a decent striker is nothing at all.
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He's on OK wages, but he's doing to be demanding £100,000 per week plus now, and I feel you're going to struggle to find a team willing to pay that and a decent transfer fee for a player who still has plenty to prove.

He's struggled for ultimate consistency at Man Utd, even when he used to play relatively frequently, so I'm as yet to see how a team which creates less chances is going to improve him.

He's got it in him to be a strong player for most teams, but I wouldn't put down £35m on him (assuming a basic £15m fee and £20m wages over four years).

I hope he proves though me wrong as he's a likeable lad.
 
Utd should buy the guy for 5 million or some arbitrary low figure so Diyen get a large percentage if nothing and then we buy a reserve player for 10 million that they own 100%. Doyen get screwed, we get another bebe and we win?
 
The Running Man said:
Utd should buy the guy for 5 million or some arbitrary low figure so Diyen get a large percentage if nothing and then we buy a reserve player for 10 million that they own 100%. Doyen get screwed, we get another bebe and we win?
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There isn't a limit to the number of clauses in a contract. Again in this situation we have that Doyen are the original owners and effectively doing Sporting a favour by loaning them the player that Sporting simply can't afford either to buy outright nor the wages, they have all the strength when it comes to negotiating the original deal. expect a contract in which they get a minimum amount in such cases. Probably worded along the lines of "if the player goes cheap or the club excepted a stupidly low fee then they become liable for the players wages for the past X years and any penalty fee's that magically add up to... whatever they want basically.

Seriously if I can think of that in 7 seconds, and Doyen can see the possibility of Sporting accepting a stupid bid, you think what will be a bunch of lawyers won't have found ways around that?


I think Hernandez is a limited but decent finisher. I think his game would actually suit a more simple team, the kind who just bang it down the wing and cross it in, play on the counter. A team like Utd that often have to play against a team sitting deep and rely on pass and move and neat tidy interplay, I think his game doesn't suit that.

For around 15mil I'd take Hernandez over Welbeck every time, I'd pay £30mil for Hernandez before £14mil on Welbeck.
 
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twist3d0n3 said:
so if not playing 1st team, he sits and eats pizza? the fitness argument is a bit thin tbh. he's low on confidence more than anything, but given the chance to shine in preseason he did NOTHING. christ, even young looked good!
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young played (or certainly appeared to play) a lot more minutes than hernandez

this_is_gav said:
He's on OK wages, but he's doing to be demanding £100,000 per week plus now, and I feel you're going to struggle to find a team willing to pay that and a decent transfer fee for a player who still has plenty to prove.

He's struggled for ultimate consistency at Man Utd, even when he used to play relatively frequently, so I'm as yet to see how a team which creates less chances is going to improve him.

He's got it in him to be a strong player for most teams, but I wouldn't put down £35m on him (assuming a basic £15m fee and £20m wages over four years).
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Not convinced at all he would ask for £100k a week, he is like Scholes and Giggs in that way who never asked for high wages
 
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Not sure if it got a mention earlier but Martin Kelly completed his move to Palace today (a penny for his thoughts after tonight's news).

His debut, nearly 5 years ago, was one of if not the best debut I've seen from any Liverpool player in as long as I can remember. Sometimes when youngsters break into the first team they get a lot of slack and their deficiencies get overlooked because you expect them to have areas that need improvement. Kelly wasn't just good for a youngster, he was excellent and you would have never thought he was making his debut.

Injuries ruined him though. He got injured on his debut which kept him out for a few months and then he picked up a 2nd injury when he returned to training which kept him out for the rest of that season and it's been the same story for 5 years.

Hopefully he can stay fit and salvage a career for himself.
 
Two really decent Swansea players moving to crap Qatar clubs. They won't be on epic money at Swansea and might get silly money in Qatar, but I could see both getting decent moves to bigger premiership clubs and more money.

Seriously would you play and live in Qatar, just to make an extra 20-40k a week. Yes that is huge money but once you are making say 60k a week after their next move, is that really not enough with another 5 years of football at least to live as a "rich" person easily enough?

If they were awful players with no chance at moving up in the future, then yeah, maybe, but in their current situation I'd turn down a move to Qatar in a heatbeat, stay in the EPL or try and move to Spain, Italy, Germany or something.
 
Maybe for Flores at 27 but not too hard to understand for Hernandez at 29. I'm sure the lure of a lucrative payoff for the last couple of years of his career was pretty tempting. A 40k a wek payrise over 2-3 years that's 5 million quid extra they could earn.

To put into perspective Becks and Henry moved to the US when they were 31 I think and of course a footballers career is only one bad tackle away from being over completely so don't blame them in the slightest.
 
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