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edit yet another national coach slamming a training method of the current Utd manager

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...al-SLAMMED-for-his-intensive-coaching-methods

Absolutely brilliant, now lets see if the same people bang on about this all season long, like they did the past manager. Last year people hung off the word of one mans opinon on training methods, let's see how this plays out :D Last year this mans word was gospel, no doubt this time he's just one man who doesn't really know?

daily star... jeus

What difference does it matter which paper posts twitter information?
 
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Absolutely brilliant, now lets see if the same people bang on about this all season long, like they did the past manager. Last year people hung off the word of one mans opinon on training methods, let's see how this plays out :D Last year this mans word was gospel, no doubt this time he's just one man who doesn't really know?



What difference does it matter which paper posts twitter information?

David, do you have nothing better to do than champion your own cause on a forum? Surely there's some backwater club you can teach the art of a long ball too.
 
The Express is back on the Benatia to Chelsea train, despite Mourinho flat-out denying any interest.

There were noises a couple of weeks back about Torres moving to Wolfsberg or Atletico. Nothing seems to have come of it. Guess it was too much to hope for... If only Chelsea could move the useless toe-rag out, and buy a good quality reserve striker (e.g. Bony), we'd have a squad with quality in depth at every position. As it is, one injury to Costa puts us right back to last season.
 
Absolutely brilliant, now lets see if the same people bang on about this all season long, like they did the past manager. Last year people hung off the word of one mans opinon on training methods, let's see how this plays out :D Last year this mans word was gospel, no doubt this time he's just one man who doesn't really know?

What difference does it matter which paper posts twitter information?

Raymond Verheijen is an idiot, always has been. Despite this, he may make some relevant points. A few weeks ago he was saying how LvG was being sensible when it came to RvP, unlike the former manager.

He's had a rant at one point or another about pretty much every high profile manager. If you actually read what he said properly (look at his Twitter), it's not really that scathing at all.

I know you'll repeatedly defend Moyes, no matter what, but the majority of the 'backlash' came after he admitted leaving RvP on despite him not being fit, which agitated his injury.

Also, it'd help if you don't attribute opinions to an entire fanbase, it's lazy.

Anyway, back on topic:

The BBC say we're trying to resolve the Rojo deal, could do with it being sorted quickly tomorrow. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28763841
 
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Two really decent Swansea players moving to crap Qatar clubs. They won't be on epic money at Swansea and might get silly money in Qatar, but I could see both getting decent moves to bigger premiership clubs and more money.

Seriously would you play and live in Qatar, just to make an extra 20-40k a week. Yes that is huge money but once you are making say 60k a week after their next move, is that really not enough with another 5 years of football at least to live as a "rich" person easily enough?

If they were awful players with no chance at moving up in the future, then yeah, maybe, but in their current situation I'd turn down a move to Qatar in a heatbeat, stay in the EPL or try and move to Spain, Italy, Germany or something.


Qatar etc don't have income tax so going from £20k/week -> £40k is ~4 times what he would get now, not just a small increase. Football is a job and footballers have families to worry about; I would be very surprised if very many had substantial pensions saved up. I think it's difficult to judge if you've not been in that position.
 
Not a chance in hell - L - if Reus is going anywhere he will go to a much bigger club than Atletico (but I dont believe he will go anywhere this summer)

So... maybe... Reus to Chelsea and Schurrle to Atletico? :p

Pure fantasy, of course, but having Hazard on the left and Reus on the right would be an amazing attacking force!
 
Raymond Verheijen is an idiot, always has been.

Yeah I know, but it didn't stop people quoting his soundbite over and over last season, even when I doubted the relevance of his soundbite and inner knowledge I got rounded on and no I don't defend him no matter what. I have said time and time again since he was sacked I was wrong and his time was up and it was a failure but I guess people are so unused to people saying they were wrong on this forum they just ignore it and carry on with their own agenda. Even as Everton manager I questioned his ability in the transfer market on anyone over £1.50 and always commented on his ability to destroy a striker. I will admit my gratitude for the job he did at Everton probably clouded my view on his football last year and as I like the guy I probably wanted him to succeed more than most. Yet on reflection his football last year was as bad as I have seen :(

Again I was wrong, he got exactly what he deserved. I did say years ago this would be the outcome, but I just hoped it wouldn't. :)

He lost the players, the staff and didn't improve the football. Irrelevant now. What's relevant is it seems LVG is working them at least as hard according to this same guy and could be the cause of Shaws injury :D

Either way with United first 6 games at least the confidence should be far better than last year. If I was a united fan looking at those first fixtures I'd expect to be top of the league/joint top or at the very least unbeaten. Even the Everton game (7th game?) is at home and you would fancy that. Of course what happens after that is a different story.
 
From what the players have been saying, they are working hard this season but much more of it is based on skills and actually having a football involved rather than pure fitness. A few have come out and expressly said that they are working with the ball more than they did last season.

I am getting slightly worried about us at the moment transfers wise. We haven't signed anyone in ages, the Vidal deal seems dead in the water, we haven't been linked with any other top midfielders bar Strootman who won't be available till January at the earliest and we will either get bent over fee wise or we won't get him. (if he is actually recovered)

At the moment the only position that we don't need to worry too much about injuries is in the front 3 and the GK. We have Hernandez, Welbeck and a few good youth players to cover the strikers and Januzaj/Kagawa to cover Mata. Midfield will be another disaster if Herrera gets injured and defensively we are light on cover across the board not to mention light on quality in the first choice players.
 
Javi Garcia gone to Zenit. Not overly surprised with the introduction of Fernando.

Kompany, Silva & Aguero all signed new contracts. Dzeko in talks over one.
 
Kompany, Silva & Aguero all signed new contracts. Dzeko in talks over one.

From what I've read, these new contracts are mainly about reducing the FFP burden. For some reason bonuses are not included by FFP, and City are shifting to a structure whereby players earn a lower basic wage but receive larger bonuses.
 
For some reason bonuses are not included by FFP, and City are shifting to a structure whereby players earn a lower basic wage but receive larger bonuses.

Their reasons for doing it might be for FFP but I'd welcome all clubs doing that. Lower wages and decent rewards for actually winning stuff and staying out of trouble :D

Manu could pay Felliani £1 a week and £50,000 per completed pass or tackle. :(
 
Their reasons for doing it might be for FFP but I'd welcome all clubs doing that. Lower wages and decent rewards for actually winning stuff and staying out of trouble :D

Manu could pay Felliani £1 a week and £50,000 per completed pass or tackle. :(

Hmm, thats a tricky one as you would just get the issue of teams having very very easy "bonuses" on top of a small salary to make sure that their players were guaranteed what they want whilst circumventing FFP.

The fear of having a bad season like Uniteds last year would also be massive. Half our players would have been on the dole if it was performance based salaries.
 
From what I've read, these new contracts are mainly about reducing the FFP burden. For some reason bonuses are not included by FFP, and City are shifting to a structure whereby players earn a lower basic wage but receive larger bonuses.

That will soon go out the window as soon as they need to attract more stars in the future (and then you can see some of those potentially on lower basic wage causing waves)

Surely its only a very temporary solution.

I dont doubt the idea is good IF every club follows this, but are they likely to? I wouldnt have thought so.
 
Well, the root of the statement comes from City's response to the FFP restrictions:

http://m.mcfc.co.uk/?i=12323/1/0&artId=531792


The relevant part is this:

MCFC said:
The wage bill of the whole club (playing and non-playing staff) for 2014-15 will need to remain at the same level as that of 2013-14 season. It is important to note that additional bonuses for performances can be paid outside this number.

So whether this is a short-term thing, in order to meet the specific FFP-related penalties that were imposed on City this year, or whether it's a long term plan to "break even" more consistently, I don't know.
 
So yeah, that adds to my confidence in thinking they'll count towards FFP, just not towards the wage bill.

You're probably right about that - having performance related bonuses completely excluded from FFP consideration seems like a giant gaping loophole.
 
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