*Transfer Window 2014/15 Season Rumours/Signings *AKA Man U fans listing every player under the Sun
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I think most are annoyed as its a nothing signing. You sign a player to improve your team, Welbeck isn't going to do that. You don't sign someone because they are ok. It's pointless.
We need someone that's going to score goals, he has twenty in total...for his career...
He isn't even a big guy that will bring other players into the game. oh well another player to sit on our bench I guess limiting the chances of our younger, more promising players.
Could have got remy or ba for less and that still would have been an improvement.
I think most are annoyed as its a nothing signing. You sign a player to improve your team, Welbeck isn't going to do that. You don't sign someone because they are ok. It's pointless.
We need someone that's going to score goals, he has twenty in total...for his career...
He isn't even a big guy that will bring other players into the game. oh well another player to sit on our bench I guess limiting the chances of our younger, more promising players.
Could have got remy or ba for less and that still would have been an improvement.
Would Remy have come to you over Chelsea - yeah ok its a probable starting position vs bench/sub at Chelsea but (without any dis-respect) Arsenal arent going to challange for the title with Chelsea and City (and with the better squads, potential for many more games therefore high possibiility of playing more often)
Tough call but I think most would go to Chelsea imo
Pretty weird.
I can see why Arsenal fans are underwhelmed but even if he's struggling infront of goal he always creates space, he's just not really what they needed.
They really needed a striker who can lead the line and with a brutal cutting edge, Welbeck hasn't really got that, and there isn't much evidence to say he'll suddenly get it.
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Well arsenal got a striker just not a good one so it's more than what wenger usual does for you
Wenger buying long term solutions to short term problems is actually what Wenger does constantly. Panics and needs some left back cover, buys Santos... gets very lucky to offload him after what 12-18 months. Buys Chamakh, gives high wage 4 year contract, uses for 6 months, etc.
Giroud is out, need a loan striker for 6 months... buys an expensive crap striker on a high wage for 5 years.......
The problem is Wenger spent the entire summer and the past year really saying Giroud is brilliant and we aren't going to be looking to replace him. He's still in Wenger's eyes first choice.
What does he see happening now when Giroud is back, Giroud is pretty crap as a centre forward, he has absolutely no skill set to play as a wide forward... so Giroud upfront, Sanchez wide, Welbeck or Walcott wide? He loves Walcott, with significantly higher quality players available who are good wide he's dropped them for Walcott whenever the little idiot is fit. So what, Giroud, Sanchez, Walcott wide and Welbeck dropped? Drop Sanchez for Welbeck, or drop the guy who for 5 years he's screwed over much better players for? Either way, it suggests Welbeck out wide long term where he is completely hopeless. That or he changed his mind and wants to drop Giroud for Welbeck, in which case, we change one expensive 6 yard box tap in artists for another expensive 6 yard box tap in artist... in both cases lacking any of what we need upfront. Genuine quality, genuine threat from either isolated or genuine ability to take the ball more than 20 yards and not fall over the ball.
There is no scenario in which Welbeck is a good signing, I won't be surprised if he ends up being dropped if when the other three are fit, so very expensive(for us) back up wide striker.... where Welbeck is even worse. Best case(for Welbeck) is Giroud is dropped long term... but he's not an improvement, most of his goals are the same type, and in every way in which Giroud utterly lacks in his game... so does Welbeck.
Wenger has screwed this club over and over for 8 years, he's done it again, he'll probably do it again in Jan even if it's just by refusing to buy anyone we need or sell someone we could be using but just won't(Campbell or the like).
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Ever thought about giving up "following" Arsenal DM? I don't think it is good for your health.
I actually feel sick; we trimmed the wrong fat. We sold Dawson, Holtby and Sandro.
Our front 3 of Eriksen, Chadli and Lamela we only have Lennon,Townsend and Kane for backup. So if any of our front 3 get injured we don't have anyone competant to play narrowly. Townsend and Lennon are wingers and Kane is just pants.
Of our 4 new defensive players, only one has English has their first language and I think they will definitely need some settling time.
So all in all, a defensive overhaul that will need time to settle; all character lost from the dressing room; short up front in terms of attacking options/quality; and a new system to learn. Colour me unexcited.
Our front 3 of Eriksen, Chadli and Lamela we only have Lennon,Townsend and Kane for backup. So if any of our front 3 get injured we don't have anyone competant to play narrowly. Townsend and Lennon are wingers and Kane is just pants.
Of our 4 new defensive players, only one has English has their first language and I think they will definitely need some settling time.
So all in all, a defensive overhaul that will need time to settle; all character lost from the dressing room; short up front in terms of attacking options/quality; and a new system to learn. Colour me unexcited.
He should do, but even if he doesnt (and he remains fit and the knee doesnt give out on him) it was worthy of a gamble
Its also a question of whether his movement and turn of pace will cause opportunity for others that wouldnt otherwise arise (even if he doesnt score himself)
I was thinking overnight that I hope LvG uses some kind of formation that uses Falcao, Rooney and Januzzaj as the top three centrally for a few games to see if it gels, with Di Maria and Herrera behind them and Blind as the defensive cover
Think that could work well (although I know that would **** Mata and RvP) , potentially the way forward......
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50 odd million is a huge gamble.
If your going to gamble why not buy every 12 million Strootman or Berbatov and churn through them if they turn out to be no good?
If your going to gamble why not buy every 12 million Strootman or Berbatov and churn through them if they turn out to be no good?
1stly we dont know the legalese to which point Utd HAVE to buy him
Whether its purely number of games, whether its minutes played , goals scored or something else
Even with Di Maria , without the dominant centre half which just arent out there currently (apart from Hummels who was unlikely to leave BD) , we were always likely to be weak at the back.
Yes Utd ******* up in regards to midfield , especially the box to box /DM Utd crucially need thats at the top of his game (like Vidal who is more of an alround box to box than a DM but even so, not to mention a few others), but herrera is a very good addition when he finds his feet and with Falcao Utd have a chance to say "what the *****, we will just out score everyone else irrespective of our untested / youthful /inexperienced defence
Welbeck could do ok at Arsenal. sure there is occasionally the element of "clown shoes" about his play but he does make things happen, works tirelessly and will play where he is told to play without sulking. he's been a bit part in a very poor United team and whilst his goal scoring exploits for United haven't been spectacular he has been decent for England (in a poor England team). The lad is strong and has decent pace and he tries things that I think will work better in the Arsenal set up as the team are a better footballing side. He'll also be linking up with Walcott, Ox and Wilshere which should mean he settle quickly. Transfer fees are seldom a guide to quality but he's surely got to be better than Sinogo.
Overall he's a good lad and not another mercenary footballer just looking for another pay day. I hope he does well.
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On the evidence so far United won't outscore everyone, that's the problem.
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