Trying to pull the statue of Saddam down

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Originally posted by Pants
Will other middle east countries and the rest of iraq be shown these pictures of iraqis celabrating or will it be somehow twisted?

I can't see how these pictures could be twisted to anti UK/USA?
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They can focus on the American flag over head incident for a start.
 
Originally posted by Pants
Will other middle east countries and the rest of iraq be shown these pictures of iraqis celabrating or will it be somehow twisted?

I can't see how these pictures could be twisted to anti UK/USA?
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They were just not shown but many Arabic stations, BUT, Al Jazeera and Abu Dhabi(sp) TV did show them, and most Arabs watch these two satelite channels rather than their own services.
 
Originally posted by Pants
Will other middle east countries and the rest of iraq be shown these pictures of iraqis celabrating or will it be somehow twisted?

I can't see how these pictures could be twisted to anti UK/USA?
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I believe Iran and some other arab countries refuse to show the piccies. Can't have arab nations seeing jollity and gaiety, welcoming the infedel.
 
No I cant be going through it all again, I mean weve been talking in depth about this stuff for more than 6 months now, I havent changed my stance at all during that entire time, very few people have.

Show me someone who thought the Iraqis would be unhappy to see Saddam gone? In terms of the future the devil is in the detail.
 
I like to feel that I'm neither pro or anti as such.

I feel that the real reasons why the US went to war are abhorant, and I also feel that the French objections to war were also abhorant.


However, seeing the joy on those few people did make me feel good. I hope the fighting stops soon, and we can get some aid to the civilians.
I also hope that the US administration doesn't get cocky either and start throwing weight around the world.

I feel that those scenes were historic, for both good reasons (the eventual freedom for the Iraqi's from Saddams regime) and bad reasons (the possibilty of the USA becoming even more imperialistic).
 
Originally posted by elbows
No I cant be going through it all again, I mean weve been talking in depth about this stuff for more than 6 months now, I havent changed my stance at all during that entire time, very few people have.

Show me someone who thought the Iraqis would be unhappy to see Saddam gone? In terms of the future the devil is in the detail.
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There were actually quite a few on this board, there are also a lot here that have become pro war or sat of the fence, rather than being anti war, but i will not name names, as that is unfair. Most people who have posted in the war threads non stop will know who they are anyway :)
 
Originally posted by rare
Sm0akes those kind of comments annoy the hell out of me.

Those soldiers have been fighting for weeks, and probably know soldiers who have been injured or perhaps even killed because of this.

In the heat of the moment these young US marines put their flag over saddams face, only to replace it with the Irai flag.

If it wasnt for those Marines that statue would still be there.

There is no need to swear and call the "Americans" (why generalise?) arogant and stupid.
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I never said what they did was inexcusable but they could have handled the situation so much better. I am obviously very happy about the speedy progress of the War today and those very memorable scenes but rather ashamed of the way those particular Americans behaved after being warned previously. Personally i would have let the Iraqis destroy the statue on their own.
 
That is fantasic news - the people look genuinely happy Saddam is gone. This imo totally vindicates the coalition's actions. The low body count and the peoples support thus far back this up.

The US count not have done what they did today without the peoples backing.

Brilliant news:)
 
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Originally posted by Sm0akes
I never said what they did was inexcusable but they could have handled the situation so much better. I am obviously very happy about the speedy progress of the War today and those very memorable scenes but rather ashamed of the way those particular Americans behaved after being warned previously. Personally i would have let the Iraqis destroy the statue on their own.
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Even though the Iraqi's were asking for help to bring down the statue??

That's not very nice!
 
Originally posted by Sharknose
I like to feel that I'm neither pro or anti as such.

I feel that the real reasons why the US went to war are abhorant, and I also feel that the French objections to war were also abhorant.


However, seeing the joy on those few people did make me feel good. I hope the fighting stops soon, and we can get some aid to the civilians.
I also hope that the US administration doesn't get cocky either and start throwing weight around the world.

I feel that those scenes were historic, for both good reasons (the eventual freedom for the Iraqi's from Saddams regime) and bad reasons (the possibilty of the USA becoming even more imperialistic).
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Here we go again, the rotten infidels will spoil Iraq's future. "Wait and see!" Thousands of people are celebrating in Iraq and more will follow now the main symbolic statue has been sodomised. The Iraqi people are h:Dppy. Forget your USA hatred and look at the truth.
 
Originally posted by Sharknose
I feel that the real reasons why the US went to war are abhorant, and I also feel that the French objections to war were also abhorant.


However, seeing the joy on those few people did make me feel good. I hope the fighting stops soon, and we can get some aid to the civilians.
I also hope that the US administration doesn't get cocky either and start throwing weight around the world.

I feel that those scenes were historic, for both good reasons (the eventual freedom for the Iraqi's from Saddams regime) and bad reasons (the possibilty of the USA becoming even more imperialistic).
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I agree with the above.. nobody in their right mind would not be pleased for the Iraqi people that they no longer have to live under Saddam's regime.

But then, I've never said anything different for the last several months we've been debating this.

There is so much wrong with what we've done and the way we've done it.. not to mention what will probably happen in future, both in Iraq and the rest of the world.

The US did not invade Iraq to liberate the Iraqi people, and anyone who believes they did is naive in my view.. the benefit to the Iraqi people is purely incidental.
 
Originally posted by Over Clocker
Even though the Iraqi's were asking for help to bring down the statue??

That's not very nice!
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I wasnt aware of that but i think it would have been a more fitting end (even if only a symbolic end) of Saddams control of Baghdad.
 
LMAO at the Iraqis being shown on News24, holding up a banner saying:

Go Home HUMAN SHIELDS U.S. *******!

But I thought the human shields were there to help the Iraqi people? :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Sundance Kid
Sounds like an interesting afternoon in Baghdad, shame i'm at work and can't see the action :(
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Same here, desperate to get home and watch the piccies.

Sheesh, mi getting old or summat?
 
Originally posted by Sm0akes
I wasnt aware of that but i think it would have been a more fitting end (even if only a symbolic end) of Saddams control of Baghdad.
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Yup, they asked for some help, as they werent getting very far.

Yes, it would have been nice to see the Iraqi's do it all on their own, but tbh, its not very realistic, when even a demolition vehicle struggled.

A sledge hammer and rope just wasnt enough.

When people ask for youre help, you go and help, not just just stand there and watch them try themselves.
 
Iraq could have a really really bright future with the right government,oil sales and no sanctions.

I can't understand anti-american attitudes now. The war with iraq was WELL worth it. Well done Bush and Blair for not giving in to the tree huggers ;) :)
 
Thing is if the weapon inspectors had the time to carry them out Saddam would still be in power. From the start I have said that this war was right to free the Iraqi people from his terror. Now that the Iraqi people have shown us how they feel, no matter what the USA's reasons for going into Iraq, we know it was a 'just cause'.
 
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