Turkish Grand Prix 2011, Istanbul Park - Race 4/19

Mike_P · 8 May 2011 at 13:53

button being held up by massa and petrov gonna hurt his 3 stop strategy

dannyjo22 · 8 May 2011 at 13:55

Flibster said:
Before the DDD there were more aero parts on the car, mini-wings, flipups and the diffusers themselves were much larger.

Still impossible to predict how cars/tyres would have followed and overtook and lived with tyre wear with cars defending more equally. Look at how quick lewis killed his tyres with a few laps of jousting.

That suggests to me they would still be battling for 2 laps then drop off.

Mike_P · 8 May 2011 at 13:56

hamilton's gonna pit soon just not quite enough gap to jump button atm, button needs to pass now

Glaucus · 8 May 2011 at 13:56

Yes Martin that's because there's plenty of rule changes, DRS is not the one causing most of the racing. The other rules also aren't unfair. God you two do my head in. If coulthard compares turbos, I may well punch the tv.

dannyjo22 · 8 May 2011 at 13:56

Buttons done, Mclaren make sure Lewis ends up ahead. What a stupid call.

Kenai · 8 May 2011 at 13:57

dannyjo22 said:
So, just because they can follow closer because the DD's have gone doesn't mean there would be more passing. There wasn't before the DD's and they could follow more closely.

It blindingly obvious from all the overtaking going on today at various places on the track that the cars are able to follow and pass much easier than in recent years and the DRS just isn't needed, they could be making overtakes down there anyway in this race, as it is on that straight, they're just breezing past.

edt - case in point for Button vs Massa there, Button pressuring him all over and then hits DRS zone and flies past - that's not racing, it makes a boring outcome to what could be good fights.

Mike_P · 8 May 2011 at 13:57

ohh this will be close between the mclarens

aspirins · 8 May 2011 at 13:57

Uh oh, bad times for Hamilton

Mike_P · 8 May 2011 at 13:57

blown it

utajoker · 8 May 2011 at 13:57

that has ruined hamiltons chances

Flibster · 8 May 2011 at 13:57

Thats Hamilton's race pretty much over.

Oynas · 8 May 2011 at 13:57

That's Lewis' day ruined.

dante6491 · 8 May 2011 at 13:58

Will be close between Hammy and Button now, maybe.

ps3ud0 · 8 May 2011 at 13:58

wahoo for button?

It had to be Massa!!!

ps3ud0 :cool:

aspirins · 8 May 2011 at 13:58

How long was that pit, I missed the timer?

ps3ud0 · 8 May 2011 at 13:59

aspirins said:
How long was that pit, I missed the timer?

Was stood probably twice as long than needed

ps3ud0 :cool:

utajoker · 8 May 2011 at 14:00

think hamilton will burn this set and go for a 4 stops to try and make up for the really long stop.

dannyjo22 · 8 May 2011 at 14:00

Kenai said:
It blindingly obvious from all the overtaking going on today at various places on the track that the cars are able to follow and pass much easier than in recent years and the DRS just isn't needed, they could be making overtakes down there anyway in this race, as it is on that straight, they're just breezing past.

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No it's not, it's obvious how quick they can get passed and not eat the tyres with DRS but as soon as they have a battle the tyres get killed.

If everything was equal with battles over multiple laps the tyres would be done.

Obviously at Monaco we will see how well the tyres last in the dirty air with no DRS.

aspirins · 8 May 2011 at 14:02

dannyjo22 said:
Obviously at Monaco we will see how well the tyres last in the dirty air with no DRS.

THought DRS was confirmed allowed at Monaco?

Glaucus · 8 May 2011 at 14:02

Who's destroyed their tyres?
Row erg with the rears, but that's not due to following.

The only other one I have seen is Hamilton. Yet we have plenty of midfielders and even top runners following for a few laps.