Turkish Grand Prix 2011, Istanbul Park - Race 4/19

Kenai · 8 May 2011 at 14:03

dannyjo22 said:
No it's not, it's obvious how quick they can get passed and not eat the tyres with DRS but as soon as they have a battle the tyres get killed.

If everything was equal with battles over multiple laps the tyres would be done.

Obviously at Monaco we will see how well the tyres last in the dirty air with no DRS.

Yes I suppose you're right, letting the cars pass each other ridiculously easily is much more entertaining than watching them push the cars to the limits.

No one today has completely killed tyres from battling, no idea where you've pulled that idea from.

dannyjo22 · 8 May 2011 at 14:05

18 laps on those tyres wow.

aspirins · 8 May 2011 at 14:06

Does Martin have no concept of distance/time? Every time someone exits the pit he talks about whether they'll make it out in front, yet it's so obvious they will!

Flibster · 8 May 2011 at 14:08

Well there's a surprise. Schumacher making contact with Barrichello as he overtakes.

dannyjo22 · 8 May 2011 at 14:08

Kenai said:
Yes I suppose you're right, letting the cars pass each other ridiculously easily is much more entertaining than watching them push the cars to the limits.

No one today has completely killed tyres from battling, no idea where you've pulled that idea from.

Lewis did.

It is more entertaining, slower cars are not geting passed faster cars. It stops races turning into processions with cars getting stuck behind slower cars.

I agree there are better aero methods to fix it but until then this is working well.

The same whingers moaning about overtaking that used to moan when there was none. There are plenty of other forms of motorsport you could watch if it's so offensive to you?

Kenai · 8 May 2011 at 14:09

Cunning plan from Ferrari there, don't give away anything on the radio by speaking a different language

utajoker · 8 May 2011 at 14:11

with the pace hamilton is doing i dont think he is going to the end on these tyres.

Kenai · 8 May 2011 at 14:12

dannyjo22 said:
Lewis did.

It is more entertaining, slower cars are not geting passed faster cars. It stops races turning into processions with cars getting stuck behind slower cars.

He didn't at all, that's rubbish. He's been hammering his tyres all race whether he's fighting with other cars or not.

Also, if you genuinely think there would have been no overtaking today without DRS you're either watching a different race to me or you're living in an alternate reality. There has been fighting all over the track - the cars can clearly manage it here.

This race would have been great without DRS, it's just made a joke of passing on that straight.

Mike_P · 8 May 2011 at 14:12

its not fast enough though he'll be behind button unless he really picks it up

he's gonna struggle to get ahead of petrov and heidfield at this rate

Glaucus · 8 May 2011 at 14:15

Tahrs a shame

utajoker · 8 May 2011 at 14:16

hes got 13.5 on button, 18 for a stop puts him 5ish behind and he will be on fresh tyres with button on old hard tyres. so he will have the tyre advantage.

sunama · 8 May 2011 at 14:17

I'm loving DRS + Pirelli tyres + KERS.
For me, this is the best dry track racing I have probably ever seen.

dannyjo22 · 8 May 2011 at 14:17

Kenai said:
Also, if you genuinely think there would have been no overtaking today without DRS you're either watching a different race to me or you're living in an alternate reality. .

You're the one in an alternate reality because at no point have said that.

I have no idea why so many people bother watching if they want to spend every season whinging about everything.

For me it's exciting and fairly unpredictable. Perfect no, but it never will be.

utajoker · 8 May 2011 at 14:17

hamilton is 2 seconds behind button, this will be interesting.

Psycho Ned · 8 May 2011 at 14:19

Buttons gonna get rogered by everyone here.

therealnerd2 · 8 May 2011 at 14:19

Wasn't there a rule somewhere about pit transmissions needing to be in english?

Or did I make that up...

utajoker · 8 May 2011 at 14:19

ham 1.5 faster on that lap, he should get the pass easy if not be let past.

dannyjo22 · 8 May 2011 at 14:20

sunama said:
I'm loving DRS + Pirelli tyres + KERS.
For me, this is the best dry track racing I have probably ever seen.

Only thing I would like is to let them run the single best compound rather than force them to use both.

Mclaren gifted this to lewis over Button. There was no way Jensons tyres would be in shape at the end.

utajoker · 8 May 2011 at 14:20

good decision button.

rosberg may yet get button, another 8 laps on 8 lap old tyres will be hard.

Kenai · 8 May 2011 at 14:20

dannyjo22 said:
You're the one in an alternate reality because at no point have said that.

I have no idea why so many people bother watching if they want to spend every season whinging about everything.

For me it's exciting and fairly unpredictable. Perfect no, but it never will be.

You said without DRS it would be processional. To be processional you'd need no overtaking.

Today's race would have been absolutely nowhere near the processional borefests we had last year if DRS was removed, it has given us fantastic racing all over the track and I just think DRS has contributed nothing to that.