TV Licence Super Thread

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Smokey Deza said:
Good for you. I certainly do. The BBCs attitude to those that don't pay it is utterly abhorrent. They've got no business knocking on my door just because I might be able to watch some of their crap through my phone or PC, nor should I be under some sort of obligation to prove to them that I don't watch BBC channels. GTFO.

They didn't invent the motion picture or have exclusive rights to it, but they sure act like they do.
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I agree, that attitude is disgusting I do not condone it at all. My experience has been fairly minimal, at university they came knocking I said I have no TV. They didn't even bother to check. Then more recently about 4 years ago I additionally said I didn't watch TV and have had no contact since.
 
I think the general advice is don't remove implied rights of access as it paints a bit of a target on your back.

I would definitely encourage ignoring them though, don't give them any details unless a court is ordering you comply with a search warrant in the presence of law enforcement personnel.

If you are actually watching or recording live TV then it's best to have the license. If not then should be nothing to fear.
 
HungryHippos said:
I think the general advice is don't remove implied rights of access as it paints a bit of a target on your back.

I would definitely encourage ignoring them though, don't give them any details unless a court is ordering you comply with a search warrant in the presence of law enforcement personnel.

If you are actually watching or recording live TV then it's best to have the license. If not then should be nothing to fear.
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That's not the general advice, often removing implied rights of access is the only thing that works. For me that is what got rid of the big target.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
wtf? are you being serious?

you don't need to prove that you don't watch tv.

all you need to prove is that it isn't connected to an aerial which is easy to do. there is no way they can prove you use iplayer so if they try and do you on that i would take it to court and win.

that's like saying if police come round to your house you have to prove you didn't murder anyone. they need to prove you did murder someone not the other way around.
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Try reading the post I was replying to. I quoted it in my reply. I'll requote the most relevant part:

"Surely it would just be easier to let them in and show them you don't need a license?"

In order to do that, you would have to prove that you don't watch TV. Your claim that you just have to prove that "it" isn't connected to an aerial is wrong. It might have been right 20 years ago, but it's obviously wrong today. So wrong that I question if you're being serious.
 
Smokey Deza said:
Good for you. I certainly do. The BBCs attitude to those that don't pay it is utterly abhorrent. They've got no business knocking on my door just because I might be able to watch some of their crap through my phone or PC, nor should I be under some sort of obligation to prove to them that I don't watch BBC channels. GTFO.

They didn't invent the motion picture or have exclusive rights to it, but they sure act like they do.
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The letters I get are so aggressive and intimidating, should be illegal it's like Netflix sending letter out with "buy our service right now or else!" You shouldn't even need to explain to them that you don't watch TV. Just like you don't have to explain to Tesco why you didn't buy marmite because you don't bloody like it.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
well scenario is:

1. don't let them in and they will pester you forever.
2. let them in for all of 60 seconds. show them tv isn't connected to aerial. and tell them to take you off their list.

i think only a moron or people cheating the system would choose number 1 tbh.
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Well situation 2 actually results in the same outcome as number one:p

Plus given how ***** looking the inspectors are I'd rather them not know if I have anything worth nicking to tell thier chav mates.
 
Angilion said:
Try reading the post I was replying to. I quoted it in my reply. I'll requote the most relevant part:

"Surely it would just be easier to let them in and show them you don't need a license?"

In order to do that, you would have to prove that you don't watch TV. Your claim that you just have to prove that "it" isn't connected to an aerial is wrong. It might have been right 20 years ago, but it's obviously wrong today. So wrong that I question if you're being serious.
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obviously you can't have sky q, etc hooked up either but i thought that was obvious enough.

basically you cannot have any live transmission hooked up the tv. smart tv's come with iplayer so you can always explain why that is on the tv as it's part of the tv. or it was installed back when you had a tv license and no longer do so it's remained on there but never used.

or you bought the tv second hand and the previous owner must have used iplayer.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
well scenario is:

1. don't let them in and they will pester you forever.
2. let them in for all of 60 seconds. show them tv isn't connected to aerial. and tell them to take you off their list.

i think only a moron or people cheating the system would choose number 1 tbh.
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When I first moved in my house I made the mistake of giving them my name and said I didn't need a TV licence for them to come round and said yep that's fine, 6 months later letters every 2 weeks and this has been going on for 4 years now. I don't even open them anymore just bin them.

Funnily enough one has just been delivered through my door.
 
Tefal said:
Well situation 2 actually results in the same outcome as number one:p

Plus given how ***** looking the inspectors are I'd rather them not know if I have anything worth nicking to tell thier chav mates.
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Never let in strangers who aren't invited tbh.

Plus there are stories of these "inspectors" making stuff up to get a court case going. That's why the whole thing about ignoring them started. If they didn't speak to anyone or get in to the property, they can't have inspected equipment or collected solid evidence. Therefore, no case.
 
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Just got a letter for TV license. I don't want broadcast TV.

Ignore it? I'm hardly in so I'd inspectors knock on door unlikely I'll be at home. And if I am don't let them in don't give my name and just say don't watch broadcast material?
 
hornetstinger said:
Just got a letter for TV license. I don't want broadcast TV.

Ignore it? I'm hardly in so I'd inspectors knock on door unlikely I'll be at home. And if I am don't let them in don't give my name and just say don't watch broadcast material?
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I had one waiting for me before I even moved in to my current house (house was empty for weeks) lol

Just bin it.

You can go online and tell them you don't need a licence, but there is no obligation to.
 
Broadcast TV, no broadcast TV, that element is completely redundant for me. My decision making stops at their thuggish mentality. Sending me letters trying to intimidate me as if they're gonna send the guys round if I don't pay up. They can take their "visit approved" stamped letters, roll them up nice and tight, and insert them in to their posteriors for all I care.
 
Nasher said:
I had one waiting for me before I even moved in to my current house (house was empty for weeks) lol

Just bin it.

You can go online and tell them you don't need a licence, but there is no obligation to.
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I used the online form but you don't need to give them a real name or email address or anything.
 
hornetstinger said:
Just got a letter for TV license. I don't want broadcast TV.

Ignore it? I'm hardly in so I'd inspectors knock on door unlikely I'll be at home. And if I am don't let them in don't give my name and just say don't watch broadcast material?
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Yes but do remember it's not just broadcast TV. It's ANY live TV even if it is on the internet. I mean the best thing to do is to avoid all live TV and all BBC stuff anywhere.
But no I would not allow them in no matter what. As one poster said, it's their thuggish attitude that I would resent. But then I have a door camera so I wouldn't even open the door in the first place, lol.
 
mrbell1984 said:
Someone else can find out but then you tell the TV checker guy that you don't watch iPlayer live TV? Just because it re-installs itself or goes to default that's not your fault unless you reset it on the sly.
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It's any iplayer watching not just live.


IPlayer is preinstalled by default on a lot of things and unremoveable.

Basicsly its like them walking in finding your tv plugged into the aerial and tunes in and you going "honestly I dont watch it".

You're much better off just saying "sorry not today" and closing the door.
 
Tefal said:
It's any iplayer watching not just live.


IPlayer is preinstalled by default on a lot of things and unremoveable.

Basicsly its like them walking in finding your tv plugged into the aerial and tunes in and you going "honestly I dont watch it".

You're much better off just saying "sorry not today" and closing the door.
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Fair enough. You can't un-install mine just tried. If it's logged in they could check the history for that account though, which would prove if you watched any live content.
 
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