Does GDPR not require them to have a reason for the data or your permission?
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Does GDPR not require them to have a reason for the data or your permission?
And what happens when he turns on your smart t.v. that has iPlayer reinstalled by default that you can't uninstall and be goes "yup I player" and fills out his form saying you're breaking the law by watcjing iPlayer?
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it's the fact it's being implied you are guilty until proven innocent.
coupled with the fact you have most likely already went online and told them you don't need one.
it's also impossible to prove these days people need one or not. guy could come look through window and see football on tv and say he's watching live tv. however it could be a youtube video. or i could be watching top gear on netflix and he says he's watching live tv.
they need to just get rid of the license and just include it in council tax or get rid of it altogether.
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There are big exemptions for investigation of tax or criminal matters.
GDPR provides exemptions (from needing consent) for the purposes of complying with legislation.
Does the law around TV Licencing suck? Yep. Is it therefore avoidable under GDPR? Nope.
Ok but I was asking is that in relation to government bodies holding information police etc
Or random companies on government contracts?
If its for the purposes of complying with the law (even crap ones), random companies can claim exemption. Probably be up to the ICO (or a Judge) to decide if they actually have a valid exemption. For example, most organisations will refuse a request on "Right to be forgotten" or "Delete me" if they need those records (We paid Mister Bloggs this much money on this date) for tax purposes (backed up by tax law and HMRCs rather heavy boots).
Fsir enough they seem crap at gathering information anyway they don't even bother to get names off the electoral roll
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Yeah, I've had this current house since 2006 and they visited just the one time in 2009. I wasn't in when it happened, but had some guys around fitting in a new bathroom for me. They told TV licensing to do one lol
I left home in 1998 without a TV and just got used to not having one. I just watch YouTube which is more relevant than TV because it's by real people. Films I just stick in the computer's blu-ray or occasionally hit the big screen.
1) Many people don't like inviting rude, aggressive people who presume they're guilty into their home.
2) It's now usually impossible to prove your innocence in this respect. Take me, for example. I haven't watched live TV for many years. Or recorded TV, come to that. There's a very old CRT TV in my junk room, but only because it's more bother to dispose of it than it is to leave it there. It might or might not still work. I haven't turned it on for at least 10 years, probably more, and I was only using it for tapes and discs for years before then. I don't have an aerial for it, anyway. I probably had one ~20 years ago. But I do have a PC and I do have an internet connection, so I have something that could be used to watch TV. How do you think I could prove that I don't? It's not like it was in the past, when watching TV required equipment specifically for that purpose. A whole slew of general-purpose equipment can be used to watch TV nowadays. Most people have something capable of displaying TV programs in their hand/pocket/bag all the time.
If they ever come to my home and they're polite and I'm not doing anything, I might let them in. Or I might not. It's completely pointless, since I can't prove I don't watch TV and they can't prove I do. Which is probably why they never come round. I get a letter every now and again asking me to restate that I don't watch live TV and I don't need a licence.
I have Youtube, games, books and discs for the very few films and TV programs I watch. I wouldn't have time to watch TV even if I wanted to pay who knows how much for the odd program I'd want to watch...and then wouldn't because of all the adverts that are part of the reason why I stopped watching TV all those years ago. There's TV at work to remind me of how irritating it is if I ever need reminding. There are adverts on Youtube, but it's not 25% of the time as it was on TV back when I watched it.
You can fill out something on their website to say you don't need a TV license if you want and that can reduce visits.
Though if they do turn up then it is surely easier to say no thanks and close the door (or just not buzz them in in my case).
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well scenario is:
1. don't let them in and they will pester you forever.
2. let them in for all of 60 seconds. show them tv isn't connected to aerial. and tell them to take you off their list.
i think only a moron or people cheating the system would choose number 1 tbh.
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wtf? are you being serious?
you don't need to prove that you don't watch tv.
all you need to prove is that it isn't connected to an aerial which is easy to do. there is no way they can prove you use iplayer so if they try and do you on that i would take it to court and win.
that's like saying if police come round to your house you have to prove you didn't murder anyone. they need to prove you did murder someone not the other way around.
Only a moron would let a person into their home that's being a complete dirt bag.
Why should I let a complete stranger into my home around my kids?
surely only a moron would waste time with that when you don't even have to buzz them in in the first place...
Only a moron would let a stranger into their house who had no right even being at your door.
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Good for you. I certainly do. The BBCs attitude to those that don't pay it is utterly abhorrent. They've got no business knocking on my door just because I might be able to watch some of their crap through my phone or PC, nor should I be under some sort of obligation to prove to them that I don't watch BBC channels. GTFO.
They didn't invent the motion picture or have exclusive rights to it, but they sure act like they do.
But that's now how it worked for me it was the other way around. Letting them in didn't stop them pestering me, it made them pester me worse. Picking number 1 with removing rights of access stopped them pestering me. I am neither a moron or cheating the system. Your post is both wrong and rude.
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