TV Licence Super Thread

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I had a visit today. North african man knocks on my door. I ask him though the window to identify himself. He pretends not to hear me. He says from tlv, so i tell him to leave the property and he just stands there staring through my kitchen window while im making lunch. I keep telling him to leave. Then after about 20 seconds i go to the door and tell him that i am tired of the harassment. So he says i am not harassing you. So i told him to leave again and he says ok you dont have to be rude.

What a joker. They harass and threaten me for years, then call me rude when they knock on my door lol.
 
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Longbow said:
Ah I see, so I can get a rocket launcher which is a prohibited weapon under Section 5, Firearms Act 1968? After all it's an act, not law?

I'll be sure to tell the police, and then the judge, and then the prison guard that.
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One of the things I found interesting about the firearms laws - there are a lot of weapons you "could" (surprisingly) actually own if you could demonstrate reasonable cause to own it - obviously most people aren't going to be able to show a good reason for owning a 50 cal sniper rifle, etc. but technically you could within the framework of the law.
 
Rroff said:
One of the things I found interesting about the firearms laws - there are a lot of weapons you "could" (surprisingly) actually own if you could demonstrate reasonable cause to own it - obviously most people aren't going to be able to show a good reason for owning a 50 cal sniper rifle, etc. but technically you could within the framework of the law.
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"Very big rats".

I've always wondered what it takes to get a liscense. Or even where you'd purchase from after getting a license. I assume customs wouldn't allow firearms through.
 
spoffle said:
So if I'm watching a live stream from my favourite Youtube technology channel, are you suggesting that I'd need a "TV license" because I'm watching a live feed?
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That is not "live TV"

It's some random stuff a random person is streaming to other random people. It's not big enough or official enough to be anything.

A live broadcast over a TV channel or the same programme provided live online is the controlled media.

It would be ridiculously easier to scrap the TV licence and flat out call it the BBC's broadcasting tax (with handouts for deserving others) then have eligibility for it be in line with eligibility for council tax.

However there is some logic in that if someone can afford the unnecessary luxury of a TV or computer, they obviously have a place to stay and access to electricity/internet so are therefore the best able to support the "TV licence" which then supports a large raft of "public service broadcasting".
 
The BBC should introduce advertising and go free to air.

They could also offer a subscription service for people who don't want to see the ads and who want to support an NGO/quango type local radio station etc.

Shouldn't be too difficult to set up these days,especially for a corporation with income of around £4,000,000,000 a year.

I wrote to the BBC a few years ago suggesting that they put a few options on the licence bill allowing me to choose where my money went,news,tv,radio etc but they have failed to reply to me so far.
 
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I had a visit today. North african man knocks on my door. I ask him though the window to identify himself. He pretends not to hear me. He says from tlv, so i tell him to leave the property and he just stands there staring through my kitchen window while im making lunch. I keep telling him to leave. Then after about 20 seconds i go to the door and tell him that i am tired of the harassment. So he says i am not harassing you. So i told him to leave again and he says ok you dont have to be rude.

What a joker. They harass and threaten me for years, then call me rude when they knock on my door lol.
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You sound totally legit.

If you've got nothing to hide just let them check and call it a day?

And why (not you, just generally) 8 pages of (I hope) feigned ignorance.

If it's a live broadcast you need a license. I can happily take that and understand where the vast majority of cases fall. It's not rocket science.

Youtube - no
Netflix - no
twitch - no (even though it is live it's not a broadcast, it's more like a 1 to many skype call)
repeat of die hard 2 broadcast on channel 5 - yes
repeat of last weeks east enders broadcast on BBC4 - yes
watching a catchup episode of east enders on iplayer - no
sky - yes
virgin - yes
something recorded from one of the 2 above - yes (because the recording was done from a live feed so this needed a license)
if Netflix or google start broadcasting a live service - almost certainly yes
 
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APM said:
The BBC should introduce advertising and go free to air.

They could also offer a subscription service for people who don't want to see the ads and who want to support an NGO/quango type local radio station etc.

Shouldn't be too difficult to set up these days,especially for a corporation with income of around £4,000,000,000 a year.

I wrote to the BBC a few years ago suggesting that they put a few options on the licence bill allowing me to choose where my money went,news,tv,radio etc but they have failed to reply to me so far.
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The BBC has no say in how it's funded though (effectively) :)

The BBC operates under a Charter that sets out how it's funded, roughly what it can do, and can't do with regards to it's funding (the BBC can't even have more than a fairly limited amount in it's bank at the end of the financial year, or take out more than a very limited amount in loans from memory*).

It's also worth noting that the advertising pot is quite limited, and most of the other broadcasters would hate for the BBC to be ad funded (it would kill off many of the smaller ones, and really hurt ITV and C5), whilst a subscription model would completely kill off the idea of it being a PSB whilst at the same time pricing it out of the range of many on low incomes (especially when you consider that for a subscription system you typically pay per receiver).


*One of the reasons they have leased their new facilities in Manchester is because IIRC they have a hard borrowing limit of about £100 million, which wouldn't have touched the cost of the new land, buildings, infrastructure and equipment (not to mention the cost of the move).
 
£12 is nothing. I watch GP's, I watch the news, I watched Top Gear, I listen to radio 2/4/5, I watch the odd drama series, the odd cooking show and the odd documentary. I like the fact I don't get advertised to as frankly I don't watch commercial TV.
 
MatsyLR said:
You guys saying you need a license if you watch live TV, do realize...that you don't right?
Its an act not a law, you have to have a license if you agree with the fact that you need one. That's the point, if you don't agree, you don't need a license, there is jack they can do about it.

Remove there implied right of access and slam the door in there face.

They can get the police involved because they are above us normal people and get warrant's, they don't care. Thats real problem.
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lol are you one of those freeman idiots?
 
No bad thing that the BBC has unusual restrictions on how it slings its weight about and huge scrutiny on its budget.

With guaranteed income in the billions it could sledgehammer its way into any sector. And equally **** up royally by extending past actual experience causing enormous waste.
 
Mercutio said:
You sound totally legit.

If you've got nothing to hide just let them check and call it a day?

And why (not you, just generally) 8 pages of (I hope) feigned ignorance.

If it's a live broadcast you need a license. I can happily take that and understand where the vast majority of cases fall. It's not rocket science.

Youtube - no
Netflix - no
twitch - no (even though it is live it's not a broadcast, it's more like a 1 to many skype call)
repeat of die hard 2 broadcast on channel 5 - yes
repeat of last weeks east enders broadcast on BBC4 - yes
watching a catchup episode of east enders on iplayer - no
sky - yes
virgin - yes
something recorded from one of the 2 above - yes (because the recording was done from a live feed so this needed a license)
if Netflix or google start broadcasting a live service - almost certainly yes
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They just dont believe me. I have told them for over 5 years the same thing. I dont own a tv, i have never owned a tv, i have a pc. They just keep coming back because they want to search my house or they want me to join their database. They probably get paid for adding names to their advertising database. Just kike the voter register they sell that to advertisers who knows who else.

The problem is that i rent and it came prewired for sky, so there is a dish on the wall with wires going in to the house. I told them i rent and its not connected but they dont believe me. So i went outside yesterday and cut the wire to the dish, hopefully that is the last i hear from them.
 
stopper said:
That way of thinking is exactly why they have got away with it for so long.
If everyone just simply told them "No", there wouldn't be any license fees.
Stand up for your self, man.
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No, there wouldn't be. They would just rename it, change the rules, and then EVERYBODY would have to pay. Like they did in Sweden, when they shifted it to the internet rather than broadcasting.
 
spoffle said:
So if I'm watching a live stream from my favourite Youtube technology channel, are you suggesting that I'd need a "TV license" because I'm watching a live feed?
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You can't even attend a live sporting event that is broadcast on TV, unless you have a license according to some people :p

However there is some logic in that if someone can afford the unnecessary luxury of a TV or computer, they obviously have a place to stay and access to electricity/internet so are therefore the best able to support the "TV licence" which then supports a large raft of "public service broadcasting".
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Horse crap and public service broadcasting is dire mental conditioning rubbish

something recorded from one of the 2 above - yes (because the recording was done from a live feed so this needed a license)
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LOL just LOL are you serious?

Someone records a live football match for me then a need a license to watch the video?

However if the same football match was on iploayer I can watch it without one? see the logic in there?
 
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stopper said:
That way of thinking is exactly why they have got away with it for so long.
If everyone just simply told them "No", there wouldn't be any license fees.
Stand up for your self, man.
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"getting away with it" ?

I have this horrible feeling you'll also say that people should refuse to pay taxes too.

As you can see quite a lot of people have posted to say they don't pay the licence because they don't need it.

The rules for needing one are clear and if you don't watch live broadcasts then you don't need to pay...

arknor said:
Horse crap and public service broadcasting is dire mental conditioning rubbish
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Read the charter sometime and work on being less paranoid.
 
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Mercutio said:
If you've got nothing to hide just let them check and call it a day?
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I don't respond well to bullies who have threatened and harassed me for years for absolutely no other reason than I don't have a TV. You might like bending over for bullies, I don't.

I would probably let them in quite happily to see I don't need a TV Licence if they bothered to ask nicely to begin with but they immediately assume anyone in the UK who chooses not to have a TV or doesn't watch 'Live' TV is a criminal. If you can't see how ridiculous that is I despair for you, even the highest Courts of Law in the UK can't do that without definite proof or evidence FFS!!
 
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