How would that provide compelling conviction evidence or do you mean provide compelling conviction evidence against the TV inspectors. I don't see how that will remotely help the TV inspectors its far more likely to be used against the TV inspectors.After reading wired article on possibility for Amazon to give authorities footage from ring doorbells (of the tv inspectors turning up at an IP address thought to evade license ?)
that would provide compelling conviction evidence.
Amazon Handed Ring Videos to Cops Without Warrants
Plus: A wild Indian cricket scam, an elite CIA hacker is found guilty of passing secrets to WikiLeaks, and more of the week's top security news.www.wired.co.uk
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It doesn't. But then I still maintain that account is a bot, it just pops up in a thread and posts a poorly written and formatted post with a random link, usually to some obscure website, that vaguely pertains to the subject matter at hand.
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Yeah I've noticed that. Even asked "it" what it's first language is, to no response. I guess it's C++.
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They don't have to prove otherwise as such, they can just state otherwise on the form thing. The long history of this thread will show that they do also hassle people sometimes...
...which means, yes unless you fill out the form thing, they assume your household requires a license.
Note: You are not legally obliged to fill out the form thing even if doing so would make their life easier.
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That form is a gamble and while it can make your life easier it can also backfire and make your life harder as now they have your personal information to make targeted attacks at you. Even if you are doing nothing wrong. I would never fill that form out again nor recommend anyone else does. A lot of it seems to depends on the area/region you live in.
you really need to follow threads aside from the dross of people posting their best life evading license fee letters, context is mechansims for IP addresses to be linked with physical addresses,
(the letters diatribe just loops every month, maybe its synchronised with the cycles of the moon, or some reddit discourse)
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At the end of the day they tell you to fill in the form online if they don’t need one. It doesn’t take much time to do it. 30 seconds max.
If they start harassing you, then you deal with it. Start reporting, keeping evidence etc.
For the ones in this thread that say they have had problems with them, have you actually done anything about it? Have you recorded their visits? What they have been doing etc? Any video evidence to put in a formal complaint?
If they start harassing you, then you deal with it. Start reporting, keeping evidence etc.
For the ones in this thread that say they have had problems with them, have you actually done anything about it? Have you recorded their visits? What they have been doing etc? Any video evidence to put in a formal complaint?
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Its not a gamble, the mistake people are making in this thread is they are reacting as if they are being harassed by a single person. This is a business, people are paid to do this, when they get a different job someone will take their place, and this will continue until such time TVL does not exist anymore.
When you say targeted attacks, that is something that is not going on, you dont fill out a form, so a machine is spamming out letters people are sending to you, no doubt continuing to ignore will result in escalation, that being said, i bet there are so many people to "visit", that if its you, you are just unlucky.
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I was aiming more for stalker ish behaviour then terrorist attack. They do at times go on the offensive very aggressively and filling out the form gives them more ammo to work when they decide to do that.You make it sound like a terrorist attack.
EDIT: As for your other questions.
have you actually done anything about it? Yes
Have you recorded their visits? Yes
What they have been doing etc? Yes
Any video evidence to put in a formal complaint? Yes
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That's not correct from my and many other peoples experience. It very much is going off. They can escalation no matter if you filled out the form or not as the inspectors have sales target to push. If you are classed as a weak target IE a single mum or in a poorer area as two examples you can get targeted more then other groups. They use every trick in the book to get more sales and don't care about the people they are focusing on.
That would be illegal and not something Amazon do in the EU or UK. The link you posted had nothing to do with TV licensing and I don't get why you think it will provide compelling conviction evidence. The only compelling conviction evidence it could be used for is against the TV licensing inspectors who break rules.
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So you telling everyone in this thread that you 100% DO NOT need a TV licence?
and (with above) ....
A) You have declared online that don't need a TV licence?
B) You have let them in to see that you don't need one?
C) Logged a formal complaint with the TV licence company? via
Making a complaint - TV Licensing ™
We understand that from time to time, things may go wrong. If you wish to make a complaint, find out about the process and how to do it here.
www.tvlicensing.co.uk
You got evidence of this that they target poorer areas and certain groups?
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A) You have declared online that don't need a TV licence? Yesand....
A) You have declared online that don't need a TV licence?
B) You have let them in to see that you don't need one?
C) Logged a formal complaint with the TV licence company? via
Making a complaint - TV Licensing ™
We understand that from time to time, things may go wrong. If you wish to make a complaint, find out about the process and how to do it here.
You got evidence of this that they target poorer areas and certain groups?
B) You have let them in to see that you don't need one? Yes
C) Logged a formal complaint with the TV licence company? via: Yes which did not work.
As you know from this thread, this is a common occurrence.
"You got evidence of this that they target poorer areas and certain groups?"
Paraphrased from what a manager said in recruitment training. It is part of the recruitment process where they say don't go door to door down the street with doors 2mins apart as you wont get enough sales instead target the homes that you are more likely to get sales on. I have seem the manager talk about being greedy and have a target of 28 sales per week minimum per inspector. They drive the inspector as hard as they can as much as they can as they are greedy and are target driven on sales.
https://assets.publishing.service.g...omen-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2019.pdf shows a very clear target against Women. In 2020, 75 per cent of prosecutions by TV Licencing were against women, despite only accounting for around 50 per cent of licence fee holders. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...l-fee-defund-the-BBC-broadcasting-corporation (https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...l-fee-defund-the-BBC-broadcasting-corporation) there is lots of evidence out there and I have experienced it myself how they target women, vulnerable and poorer areas. The numbers clearly show women, poor and vulnerable are disproportionately prosecuted/targeted.
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Just seen the edit: 100% I do not need a TV licence. I have never needed one in my entire life.
Finally ditched SKY and therefore ditched the license and got a refund back for the rest of my annual fee until July.
It is such a stupid and archaic way of doing things now.
I won't be watching BBC content again until they introduce a reasonably priced monthly streaming option (I would be more than happy to dip in and out and watch some of their content if they did that).
There is such an absurd amount of content to watch on Netflix, Amazon, Disney, NOWTV and Apple anyway, regular TV is just not needed anymore.
If they don't change their business model soon, they are going to drown i the sea of change that they never bothered to buy a boat for.
It is such a stupid and archaic way of doing things now.
I won't be watching BBC content again until they introduce a reasonably priced monthly streaming option (I would be more than happy to dip in and out and watch some of their content if they did that).
There is such an absurd amount of content to watch on Netflix, Amazon, Disney, NOWTV and Apple anyway, regular TV is just not needed anymore.
If they don't change their business model soon, they are going to drown i the sea of change that they never bothered to buy a boat for.
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