TV Licence Super Thread

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robgmun said:
What is the point of this post? Or is it just an excuse to take a bash at your boogymen?
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i believe you mean bogeymen

Boogymen be like:
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sidimmu said:
The agent will be welcomed indoors to prove I have no need nor intention to use their cruddy services
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you do realize that they will want full access to all your computers, tablets and phones, and given they now say that even watching "live" videos on any platform (youtube,tictok ect ect) by a "broadcaster" needs a licence are you 100% sure you not watch one
 
as he said "it a bit of a grey area".
and it comes down to 'what is a broadcaster'.
some random person doing a live stream once in a while clearly isn't
but some guy who has a regular schedule and is making money from, your in a grey area, until it tested in court

take Linus and LMG, you have a record of watching one of his live streams on your computer, you end up in court, given the size of LMG, the output of LMg the profits it makes, and staff employed. you really want to bet, that the court won't find you guilty ?
 
Btone said:
as he said "it a bit of a grey area".
and it comes down to 'what is a broadcaster'.
some random person doing a live stream once in a while clearly isn't
but some guy who has a regular schedule and is making money from, your in a grey area, until it tested in court

take Linus and LMG, you have a record of watching one of his live streams on your computer, you end up in court, given the size of LMG, the output of LMg the profits it makes, and staff employed. you really want to bet, that the court won't find you guilty ?
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Broadcast means at the same time as its Broadcast on a live TV channel. So If Skynews broadcast to YouTube like that do that counts. Linus and LMG are not on a TV broadcast so do not count as broadcasting. To count as broadcasting you need to have a Broadcasting licence which only applies to commercial television.
 
Btone said:
as he said "it a bit of a grey area".
and it comes down to 'what is a broadcaster'.
some random person doing a live stream once in a while clearly isn't
but some guy who has a regular schedule and is making money from, your in a grey area, until it tested in court

take Linus and LMG, you have a record of watching one of his live streams on your computer, you end up in court, given the size of LMG, the output of LMg the profits it makes, and staff employed. you really want to bet, that the court won't find you guilty ?
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It's not a grey area and even goes on to explain why it isn't, he should not have used those words. Linus Tech Tips is not a television programme service. The defining law is here: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2004/692/part/3/made

Most live content on Youtube is not subject to the TV licence.
 
Btone said:
as he said "it a bit of a grey area".
and it comes down to 'what is a broadcaster'.
some random person doing a live stream once in a while clearly isn't
but some guy who has a regular schedule and is making money from, your in a grey area, until it tested in court

take Linus and LMG, you have a record of watching one of his live streams on your computer, you end up in court, given the size of LMG, the output of LMg the profits it makes, and staff employed. you really want to bet, that the court won't find you guilty ?
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It won’t ever go to court if you watching people live stream.
 
Btone said:
take Linus and LMG, you have a record of watching one of his live streams on your computer, you end up in court, given the size of LMG, the output of LMg the profits it makes, and staff employed. you really want to bet, that the court won't find you guilty ?
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That is a dreadful take and is massively inaccurate.
I'll happily take a bet that the court will find me not guilty under that exact circumstance and content provider.
 
the pain of those receiving occasional license demands through the door is nothing compared to those of us who will be missing Gary,

God forbid, we could find match of the day replaced by more reality tv; beeb, traditionally, has nothing worth watching on Saturday evenings -
which was fine when the cost of a pint was reasonable.
 
How on earth do the BBC get to charge you for watching a live broadcast on YouTube/an app from a totally unfiliated company/channel?

Honestly, the TV license is the most bizarre "license" or charge in existence. Essentially, the BBC have done nothing to modernise their business platform to coincide with the internet and streaming, to the point where it now makes zero sense. It literally only makes sense in a world of TV aerials. It no longer functions as a reasonable product in 2023.
 
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Jono8 said:
Well what's all the talk above about then?
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5,655 posts?

It's a big circular discussion where usually, someone says what you said, other people point out it's not true. Then someone says they're vampires because they harass people in their homes for not paying the license, someone else says just fill in the form, someone else again says they've been hassled.

In the very recent discussion though I shall quote the key post that got about 5 replies pointing out it's inaccurate:
Btone said:
you do realize that they will want full access to all your computers, tablets and phones, and given they now say that even watching "live" videos on any platform (youtube,tictok ect ect) by a "broadcaster" needs a licence are you 100% sure you not watch one
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Pottsey said:
Broadcast means at the same time as its Broadcast on a live TV channel. So If Skynews broadcast to YouTube like that do that counts. Linus and LMG are not on a TV broadcast so do not count as broadcasting. To count as broadcasting you need to have a Broadcasting licence which only applies to commercial television.
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LuckyBenski said:
5,655 posts?

It's a big circular discussion where usually, someone says what you said, other people point out it's not true. Then someone says they're vampires because they harass people in their homes for not paying the license, someone else says just fill in the form, someone else again says they've been hassled.

In the very recent discussion though I shall quote the key post that got about 5 replies pointing out it's inaccurate:

e.g.
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So they do think they require payment if you watch a live stream broadcast from an unaffiliated provider and on totally unaffiliated app then?

Why do the BBC think they deserve money from you if you watch content from someone else?

It's a bizarre and antiquated license which no longer makes sense in the modern media landscape.
 
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Jono8 said:
So they do think they require payment if you watch a live stream broadcast from an unaffiliated provider and on totally unaffiliated app then?
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Only if that live stream broadcast is also being broadcast on TV at that very moment.

So unaffiliated maybe but, very clearly defined as related by being in the broadcast TV ecosystem. Not random YouTube channels, internet TV etc
 
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