Why not?
TV Licence Super Thread
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You can as long as you don't watch live TV (from any source) or use BBC iPlayer. That's an inconvenience many don't want but you do not need a TV licence to just own and watch a TV, it's what you watch rather than just that you do watch TV.
Caporegime
Because they post their services through your TV without your consent and then charge you for it, the only way to stop it is to give up your own time to have an argument with them
At the very least the licencing thing should be a civil matter only with no possibility of criminal sanction.
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Caporegime
The law courts have no business acting as the BBC's Mafia thugs.
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Associate
I could be wrong but no one has been criminally prosecuted for not having a TV licence. A fine is issued and it's failure to pay the fine that lands people in trouble.
Soldato
It is ridiculous.
It is not an unreasonable increase, and I assume that this is what the BBC have asked for? The government seems to be trying to make itself look like knights in shining armour and will step in to block the BBC, when they have ALWAYS set the actual increase. It was the same for the free licences. The government used to fund the free licences, then sneakily handed that responsibility to the BBC and had the nerve to criticise the BBC when they wanted to abolish them. It's typical BS from politicians. I really do believe the BBC would do a lot better when it's cut free from the government. Roll on 2027.
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Absolutely.
I don’t watch live tv and can’t remember the last time I ever used iPlayer.
But I still pay the licence fee as I don’t have the time or energy to deal with proving that I don’t use those services.
As you say it should just be a fee to access their services like every other subscription service.
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The time you spent on renewing your licence is around if not less than the time spent filling in the online form to say you don't watch live tv or require a tv licence.
Telling us you don't need a TV Licence - TV Licensing ™
Let us know if you don’t need a TV Licence. But, if you watch or record programmes as they're being shown on TV, then you do need to be covered by one.
www.tvlicensing.co.uk
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They don't want that because they know it would have to be worth the fee and compete with Amazon, Netflix etc and with their current programming they just can't. The bullying is their business model. It's the only legal extortion racket.
Comedy was their big thing years ago. But BBC comedy died when they went woke. But it backfired and it's the BBC which is being cancelled
Comedy was their big thing years ago. But BBC comedy died when they went woke. But it backfired and it's the BBC which is being cancelled
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Yup, the BBC by then will have finally nailed its own coffin shut.
People here saying that you need to prove that you don’t consume BBC content, well, you don’t, not at all.
If (unlikely) a goon knocks on your door, either tell them to go away or just don’t answer the door.
Unless you are a vulnerable person of some I kind don't think they even bother visiting. Most sane people who own home will just bounce them off the property, so it's a waste of resources.
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was just about to post the same, you have to prove nothing to the bbc jackboots. it up to them to prove your watching the BBC, put their letter in the bin unopened, and if a guy shows up at your door. tell him nothing and shut the door (unless there a police officer beside him), you have nothing to fear as long as your truly following the rules and not watching live tv
Soldato
They may "beam the services in" but you don't have to receive them i.e. don't have an aerial. This wont stop you using other streaming services such as Netflix.
AFAIK, there are no services available that require a TV Aerial without having to pay a TV Licence.
Edit - Also, you don't really need to prove anything if/when they come around.
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I wonder if the BBC will tell the Govt that it will cancel the UK propaganda wing the World Service and charge Govt for any time they want political messages etc. Lots of other things Govt wants but does not want to pay.
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BBC would 100pc die if it went subscription like Netflix.They don't want that because they know it would have to be worth the fee and compete with Amazon, Netflix etc and with their current programming they just can't. The bullying is their business model. It's the only legal extortion racket.
Comedy was their big thing years ago. But BBC comedy died when they went woke. But it backfired and it's the BBC which is being cancelled
I still think it'll end up as some tax.
I'll have to pay 200 a year for something I don't use, I don't want, and isn't essential.
I can't see any government letting it die.
Even keeping the current structure is a slow death.
For me..
Keep it as is.
Or send it to the Netflix model
Please don't force me to pay for it via council tax. Because I know it'll end up costing 200ppy and never ever have to be accountable for quality programs as there will be literally no way to escape paying
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They did that in Germany but I think people found loopholes to avoid paying. They still need consent to take the money and many people just didn't give it.
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This is ridiculous.
If you don't use it, just don't pay it.
You're saying cancelling your DD isn't worth 150 a year?
Added... It takea me 1 minute max to cancel a DD
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You don't even need to tell them. You can just stop buying a licence if you don't need one. They will send you a few bullying letters but just bin them if you can't or don't want to fill in the online form.
You don't have to prove anything you just don't pay.
Caporegime
You're not wrong but it amounts to the same thing, failing to give them your time when they target you lands you at the magistrates courts, from then on it becomes a criminal matter with the magistrates.
If you don't pay for Netflix you don't get Netflix, at no point to you end up infront of the magistrates.
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