TV Licence Super Thread

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But i dont understand why bandwidth would matter or be useful. They can tell if you use it or not without sending in van guys with ghost catching gear to each household and measuring your bandwidth if they had the information to make that bandwidth measurement useful at all.
 
It wasn't me watching anything on iPlayer it was my mate that came around and he has a TV license and used my laptop to watch while I was busy doing something else. He comes around a lot and watches it a lot.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
But i dont understand why bandwidth would matter or be useful. They can tell if you use it or not without sending in van guys with ghost catching gear to each household and measuring your bandwidth if they had the information to make that bandwidth measurement useful at all.
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If they do have a very precise way to measure your bandwidth as some articles seemed to suggest, then this method would also work even if you connect through a vpn.

Imagine that when iplayer is buffering content, rather than a constant stream, it downloads as normal for 0.5seconds then pauses for 0.5seconds and repeats this. Obviously, this is a very simplified example of what they could do.
This sort of pattern would likely be visible over the top of other network traffic.

As I said before, I would still be sceptical about how they monitor your bandwidth from their van.
 
Probably the same way it used to work;

Some information regarding TV detection technology was revealed as part of a freedom of information request made to the BBC in 2013, which included details of a search warrant. The warrant revealed that a BBC contractor had used an "optical detector" to reveal the possible presence of a TV.[10] The warrant stated that: "the optical detector in the detector van uses a large lens to collect that light and focus it on to an especially sensitive device, which converts fluctuating light signals into electrical signals, which can be electronically analysed. If a receiver is being used to watch broadcast programmes then a positive reading is returned." [10] The BBC stated that this was strong evidence that a set was "receiving a possible broadcast".
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Surely that's just a digital camera? With a Lens?
 
gandhi said:
Probably the same way it used to work;



Surely that's just a digital camera? With a Lens?
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I took it to mean a bloke sat in his van, attempting to peer through your window via a pair of bi-noc-u-lars.
 
I still sit with the option: Privatise the lot, scrap the license and make everyone that wants it have to pay for it like sky. I consider the BBC to be disgrace of a service these days, a proper propaganda machine for government! :mad:
 
Seriously, why are they not linking a license number to some kind of login? Ok, it doesn't work for TV license dodgers watching live broadcasts, but it would dramatically cut down unlicensed iPlayer use.

Think of all the optical detectors that could buy!:rolleyes:
 
Absomalutely said:
Seriously, why are they not linking a license number to some kind of login? Ok, it doesn't work for TV license dodgers watching live broadcasts, but it would dramatically cut down unlicensed iPlayer use.
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This model would be so easy, it's almost as if they're deliberately not doing it.
 
His TV License covers him for:

At any location

Any device powered solely by its own internal batteries (i.e. it is not connected to an aerial or plugged into the mains).

As such it should be covered by his license.
 
''A TV Licence is a legal permission to install or use television equipment to receive (i.e. watch or record) TV programmes, as they are being shown on TV or live on an online TV service''

Wow they completely flipped their own rules on their heads. Now its to watch ANY TV channel?

This has just made the whole TV license thing look totally like legal extortion. Who are the BBC to demand payment from you to watch say channel 4? What have the other channels had to say about this? Cos for a couple of decades it was only necessary if you watched BBC channels.

What next an arbitrary toaster license?

This is ridiculous. And whoever is paying them still is a moron who is acquiescing to being extorted.
 
CosmicClown said:
''A TV Licence is a legal permission to install or use television equipment to receive (i.e. watch or record) TV programmes, as they are being shown on TV or live on an online TV service''

Wow they completely flipped their own rules on their heads. Now its to watch ANY TV channel?

This has just made the whole TV license thing look totally like legal extortion. Who are the BBC to demand payment from you to watch say channel 4? What have the other channels had to say about this? Cos for a couple of decades it was only necessary if you watched BBC channels.

What next an arbitrary toaster license?

This is ridiculous. And whoever is paying them still is a moron who is acquiescing to being extorted.
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A license has always been required for live or recording live TV.
 
I can only see two ways the BBC could "detect" you watching the iPlayer:

1: Open WiFi network allowing anyone to jump on and analyse what sites you're hopping onto with something simple like Wireshark.

2: Asking your ISP if you visit bbc.co.uk/iplayer.
 
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