TV Licence Super Thread

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LOAM said:
How does mobile devices work, for example we have a TV licence and I watch iPlayer occasionally on my pad. Can I do so on my office WiFi? Does my licence cover all my devices or only the building the are in.

I'm not sure i be ever bothered to find out.
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your tv license covers you or anyone from your house to watch mobile devices anywhere, as long as they are not plugged into the mains, then they are no longer classed as mobile devices.
 
Probably already been mentioned, but what if I decided to watch iPlayer on my tablet using the free BT wifi hotspot facility while inside a building which does not have a tv licence, but I have a valid licence at home?
 
What a mess

Do I need a TV Licence if I watch on a mobile device?
If you’re using a mobile device powered solely by its own internal batteries – like a smartphone, tablet or laptop – you will be covered by your home’s TV Licence, wherever you’re using it in the UK and Channel Islands.
However, if you’re away from home and plug one of these devices into the mains and use it to watch or record live TV programmes on any channel or device, or to download or watch BBC programmes on iPlayer, you need to be covered by a separate TV Licence at that address (unless you’re in a vehicle or vessel like a train, car or boat). It’s the law.
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So from that I can take my pad to my office, use its WiFi and I'm covered by my licence. If I'm watching whilst charging from mains I'm not. So basically never plug it in.
 
LOAM said:
What a mess



So from that I can take my pad to my office, use its WiFi and I'm covered by my licence. If I'm watching whilst charging from mains I'm not. So basically never plug it in.
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Well, you can do. There would be no way for them to know if its plugged in or not. Unless terley has some revelation about van guys measuring the exact power consumption for your office and comparing it with TechReview benchmarks :p

Even if they magically did catch you. You wouldn't be fined, your company will.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
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So tell me how you will get round those minor issues terley :D




It covers your household and mobile devices regardless of where they are.
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It is not my job to defend or discredit a technology i:

1) Don't support.
2) Know nothing about, because its a secret system

The fact is, the BBC have claimed that this technology exists, perhaps its nothing more than scare-mongering for those who have less knowledge.. But it is very possible to do, especially if they have full control of the service.
 
terley said:
If you cant disprove what i am saying then don't be so rude..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/05/bbc-to-deploy-detection-vans-to-snoop-on-internet-users/

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style...-licence-vans-wifi-sniffing-packet-technology

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/snooping-bbc-spy-internet-users-8572134

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Player-new-generation-WiFi-detector-vans.html
(They are denying the capture of data, not looking at the data signature)
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Still complete nonsense, your linking NEWS ARTICLES as 'proof' - thats right, media saying this stuff is real - of course they will say that, its in their benefit and the share holders benefit - link my a scientifically verifiable source with information as to how they can 1) snoop data packets from encrypted wifi 2) If the user watches on headphones how they can hear you watching BBC content 'shazam' style detection.

Also point 2, the BBC would be in violation of physical privacy without a court order enabling them to spy on people, because if they can hear a tv with directional mics then they can hear you speaking - which a BBC van team wouldnt get as they have no reasonable suspicion your breaking the law - you can only get a spy permission (in above board cases) when you have reasonable proof already someone is likely up to no good, and thats usually someone who is committing serious crime and has a history, no where near TV watching super minor 'crime'

The BBC as an entity is a disgusting pig of a corporation - much like the tories and government in general, nothing less than a bunch of rich folks bulling the 'common' man, there only interested in moving money up the pyramid of society.
 
LOAM said:
What a mess



So from that I can take my pad to my office, use its WiFi and I'm covered by my licence. If I'm watching whilst charging from mains I'm not. So basically never plug it in.
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Haha, this gets even more fun...

What if I'm charging my Nexus via the Qi wireless charger? My tablet is not connected to the mains, the Qi pad is.;)
 
Combat squirrel said:
The government does not deserve respect any more, it used to be society naturally respected the government, and to an extension of that, the laws of the land - but no longer, no longer can we the people respect such things when they are increasingly moving away from serving the people to controlling the people - the gov is the peoples enemy now, and they are acting as such, at a very slow pace as to not cause alarm in the people.
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So, what's you plan?
 
Didn't you know that iPlayer now takes you picture and sends it with gps data back to the bunker. Buy a license or just wait for them to take you away... :p
 
Glaucus said:
your tv license covers you or anyone from your house to watch mobile devices anywhere, as long as they are not plugged into the mains, then they are no longer classed as mobile devices.
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Is this the case even if you're using the wifi at the unlicensed property? If so, that solves the issue my friend is having.

Got a link to anything official? Not doubting you, just nice to have it in official writing :)

Edit... Nevermind, just saw the second page here with the post above
 
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terley said:
Know nothing about,
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Yup.

So you come spouting all this nonsense and wouldnt let it go because your a CS student but assure us it is definitely possible to implement (which we prove it totally isnt in the real world). Now you dont know anything about it :D

Dont believe everything in the papers, especially if it involves fear mongering
 
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terley said:
Damn didnt take long for people to just discredit the idea.

There was a documentary a few months back, that dispelled a few myths about this topic..

With Iplayer, they claim that they can match your bandwidth signature to that being outputted by the Iplayer service..

"Sir Amyas Morse’s report said:

“The BBC’s final detection and enforcement option is its fleet of detection vans. Where the BBC still suspects that an occupier is watching live television but not paying for a licence, it can send a detection van to check whether this is the case. TVL detection vans can identify viewing on a non‐TV device in the same way that they can detect viewing on a television set. BBC staff were able to demonstrate this to my staff in controlled conditions sufficient for us to be confident that they could detect viewing on a range of non‐TV devices.”"

They claim that it would not infringe upon privacy law because they aren't looking at the content, but rather the bandwidth.
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I'd love to see how they can obtain that information from my encrypted packets.
 
Complete BS!

The BBC couldn't detect a large group of Paedophiles abusing kids in their own building!

I wouldn't worry about them catching you watching Songs of Praise on iPlayer.
 
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