TV Licence Super Thread

Kenai · 2 Feb 2017 at 21:27

Don't worry about it dowie, i profusely apologise for ruining your evening by not posting something that was crystal clear and referenced and sourced.

dowie · 2 Feb 2017 at 21:31

No one said anything about referencing... just simply quote whoever you're referring to - it is not that hard to do.

Posting the below is a rather cowardly way to try and have a dig at people:

Kenai said:
Do people genuinely have a problem with the idea of a licence or is it just an easy way to rebel a bit and stick it to the man without really running the risk of getting done for anything like you would for refusing to pay council tax or something?

Kenai · 2 Feb 2017 at 21:31

dowie said:
No one said anything about referencing... just simply quote whoever you're referring to - it is not that hard to do.

Posting the below is a rather cowardly way to try and have a dig at people:

I wasn't trying to have a dig at anyone :confused:

Have you got bent out of shape because you thought that post was backhanded personal attack on you or something?

dowie · 2 Feb 2017 at 21:36

no, I didn't think it applied to me - though you then proceeded to quote me when asked to quote who it referred to...

I just thought it was out of place and didn't seem to apply to anyone - you seemed to make it in response to a chain of posts and indeed have clarified that it was in response to a chain of posts... yet it doesn't seem to have any relevance even after you've posted multiple times since then

Kenai · 2 Feb 2017 at 21:43

I've even clarified how I interpreted those posts but that's seemingly still not enough?

If I fundamentally misunderstood what was meant by arctine replying 'Nah' to the comment of 'Assuming you don't watch any live TV then just tell them. If you do you'll obviously need to pay the TV license.' then that's where the confusion stems from and I apologise.

I interpreted that response as 'Nah, don't just tell them. Nah, you don't need to pay the licence if you watch TV'.

Basher's response and your response to Basher followed on from that and I interpreted similarly.

Off the back of that, I elected to pose the question about whether people really disliked the licence because of what it stood for or whether it was because it was something easy to kick up about without any real risk of consequence.

[FnG]magnolia · 2 Feb 2017 at 21:45

This is unironically my second favourite thread in GD. It has drama, idiots, idiot drama, and dramatic idiots.

Voted 5.

dowie · 2 Feb 2017 at 21:46

Well I think the answer to that is 'no' for the vast majority (if not all) posters in this thread without a license.

If this were some 'freeman of the land' forums then you might have been onto something however. I'd suspect, with it being a tech forum, that services like Amazon, Netflix (and prior to that the prevalence of people downloading shows) would be the main reasons.

dowie · 2 Feb 2017 at 21:46

[FnG]magnolia;30465441 said:
This is unironically my second favourite thread in GD. It has drama, idiots, idiot drama, and dramatic idiots.

Voted 5.

definitely 5 now that you've turned up

Kenai · 2 Feb 2017 at 21:47

dowie said:
Well I think the answer to that is 'no' for the vast majority (if not all) posters in this thread without a license.

If this were some 'freeman of the land' forums then you might have been onto something however. I'd suspect, with it being a tech forum, that services like Amazon, Netflix (and prior to that the prevalence of people downloading shows) would be the main reasons.

Took a while but we eventually ended up at a simple response to what was intended to be a simple discussion point

Kenai · 2 Feb 2017 at 21:49

[FnG]magnolia;30465441 said:
This is unironically my second favourite thread in GD. It has drama, idiots, idiot drama, and dramatic idiots.

Voted 5.

My interest is piqued as to what your favourite is.

Also whether I qualify merely as an idiot or a dramatic idiot?

dowie · 2 Feb 2017 at 21:49

Kenai said:
Took a while but we eventually ended up at a simple response to what was intended to be a simple discussion point

I did answer it before (with more or less the same point) but I chose to do so in the same style of the original question... thus prompting the last couple of pages of exchange

I guess it gave mags some entertainment

dowie · 2 Feb 2017 at 21:51

Kenai said:
My interest is piqued as to what your favourite is.

Also whether I qualify merely as an idiot or a dramatic idiot?

I'd hope I'd qualify as dramatic idiot

Kenai · 2 Feb 2017 at 21:52

dowie said:
I'd hope I'd qualify as dramatic idiot

I'm not sure your posts contained enough involuntary yellow stars for you to count as dramatic

DMZ · 4 Feb 2017 at 20:36

A2Z said:
Would anything happen after that?

The BBC say that they are introducing patterned packets into iPlayer's TCP connections so that they can see what you watch by monitoring your WiFi from outside your home.

So if you don't have a licence, don't use iPlayer via WiFi.

malachi · 4 Feb 2017 at 20:49

DMZ said:
The BBC say that they are introducing patterned packets into iPlayer's TCP connections so that they can see what you watch by monitoring your WiFi from outside your home.

So if you don't have a licence, don't use iPlayer via WiFi.

Great, all my devices are hard wired anyway

Droolinggimp · 4 Feb 2017 at 21:39

DMZ said:
The BBC say that they are introducing patterned packets into iPlayer's TCP connections so that they can see what you watch by monitoring your WiFi from outside your home.

So if you don't have a licence, don't use iPlayer via WiFi.

Ok so, if wifi is not findable or whatever the term is (hidden probably) under the wifi settings can the TVL still see patterns in usage etc?

Disclaimer: I don't have TVL as I don't watch broadcast TV only Netflix and amazon. My network is wired too.

Edit: Also how can they tell the wifi signal is from your house anyway? Pretty much all my street is on Virgin media.

Tefal · 4 Feb 2017 at 21:42

didnt google get into trouble for so much as looking for unsecured wifi let alone packet sniffing?

Dano · 4 Feb 2017 at 21:45

Droolinggimp said:
Ok so, if wifi is not findable or whatever the term is (hidden probably) under the wifi settings can the TVL still see patterns in usage etc?

Disclaimer: I don't have TVL as I don't watch broadcast TV only Netflix and amazon. My network is wired too.

Edit: Also how can they tell the wifi signal is from your house anyway? Pretty much all my street is on Virgin media.

Hiding the SSID doesn't stop packets being scanned and triangulation would enable them to locate the source.

Tefal said:
didnt google get into trouble for so much as looking for unsecured wifi let alone packet sniffing?

I was just thinking that, it's got to be somewhat dodgy hasn't it?

Droolinggimp · 4 Feb 2017 at 21:54

Dano said:
Hiding the SSID doesn't stop packets being scanned and triangulation would enable them to locate the source.

Ok fair enough. Not totally clued up on all wifi jargon etc. Only my phone is on wifi at home everything else is wired.

Malevolence · 4 Feb 2017 at 22:11

DMZ said:
The BBC say that they are introducing patterned packets into iPlayer's TCP connections so that they can see what you watch by monitoring your WiFi from outside your home.

So if you don't have a licence, don't use iPlayer via WiFi.

Never going to work. How are they going to prove it was you who was actually watching the broadcast and not your neighbours or someone else sat outside using your wifi. Then again, it could've been your mate, who has a licence, and who decided to watch something via iPlayer on his phone when around your house.