Two schoolgirls abused by 60 men in Aylesbury child sex ring, court hears

You are failing to make the distinction between the two types of crimes because you hold prejudice in defending foreigners who commit crime

When we had the white pedo group committing the crime a few weeks ago, you can see that is not something that is specific to white culture in that they knew what they were doing was not ethical and that they were evil ********. With these grooming gang cases, these are people who think what they are doing is completely ethical and consensual. This is a massive difference. As it makes the grooming gangs a problem of culture and not just a few bad apples.

They don't they know exactly what they are or would you believe that the muslim members of ocuk get up to this sort of noncence?

It's just individual perverts, gangsters and money hogs same as all the gangs that vdo this sort of crime.
 
They don't they know exactly what they are or would you believe that the muslim members of ocuk get up to this sort of noncence?

It's just individual perverts, gangsters and money hogs same as all the gangs that vdo this sort of crime.

Where are these muslims that are out raged at the grooming gangs? Instead of being out raged they will just say that people that are out raged are only out raged because they are foreigners. That doesn't sound like out rage to me.

I am sure on an individual level many muslims will say its wrong if pressed on the issue in a public forum. The point though is that within muslim culture (internationally) it is permitted and normalized to have sexual relations with underage girls. Do you accept that? I would argue the only reason muslims in the UK don't marry under age girls is because the british culture and law does not permit it. Sure there may be some british brought up muslims who have british values and would not support that, those muslims would be told that they are not true muslims by the ones that don't put british values before muslim ideals.
 
Where are these muslims that are out raged at the grooming gangs? Instead of being out raged they will just say that people that are out raged are only out raged because they are foreigners. That doesn't sound like out rage to me.

I am sure on an individual level many muslims will say its wrong if pressed on the issue in a public forum. The point though is that within muslim culture (internationally) it is permitted and normalized to have sexual relations with underage girls. Do you accept that? I would argue the only reason muslims in the UK don't marry under age girls is because the british culture and law does not permit it. Sure there may be some british brought up muslims who have british values and would not support that, those muslims would be told that they are not true muslims by the ones that don't put british values before muslim ideals.

I've never felt compelled to castigate christian criminals when I read about strangers doing strange things in strange places who are white, just because someones dad is a muslim and gives him a muslim name doesn't make him a muslim, in fact I bet engaging in these crimes automatically stops you being a muslim if you ever were one.
 
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Where are these muslims that are out raged at the grooming gangs? Instead of being out raged they will just say that people that are out raged are only out raged because they are foreigners. That doesn't sound like out rage to me.

I am sure on an individual level many muslims will say its wrong if pressed on the issue in a public forum. The point though is that within muslim culture (internationally) it is permitted and normalized to have sexual relations with underage girls. Do you accept that? I would argue the only reason muslims in the UK don't marry under age girls is because the british culture and law does not permit it. Sure there may be some british brought up muslims who have british values and would not support that, those muslims would be told that they are not true muslims by the ones that don't put british values before muslim ideals.

Hang on there were Hindus, Christian and Sikhs who were part of the grooming gang, why don't you just drop your Muslim xenophobic comments and see that this is a wider cultural issue which stems from the Indian sub-continent.

You can have this for free

:rolleyes:
 
Hang on there were Hindus, Christian and Sikhs who were part of the grooming gang, why don't you just drop your Muslim xenophobic comments and see that this is a wider cultural issue which stems from the Indian sub-continent.

You can have this for free

:rolleyes:

Where does it say there were Christians in the grooming gang?
 
Seems pretty clear that this is a problem within certain ethnic communities. I don't know why anyone would want to deny that.

cause its lets you sit on a high horse and **** on people while calling them idiots and horrible human beings?

it's about the only sense of accomplishment some people get.
 
cause its lets you sit on a high horse and **** on people while calling them idiots and horrible human beings?

it's about the only sense of accomplishment some people get.

Nah, it's because I know loads of muslims who are really nice civic minded individuals, way better people than many of my white friends and acquaintances or ocuk bigots and far less likely to be involved in crime than the many white and black crims I know, it's elementary.
 
Hang on there were Hindus, Christian and Sikhs who were part of the grooming gang, why don't you just drop your Muslim xenophobic comments and see that this is a wider cultural issue which stems from the Indian sub-continent.

You can have this for free

:rolleyes:

As far as I am aware it was predominantly Muslims behind the grooming gangs,is that correct or not?

It seems to also affect Africa and middle east and not just India.
 
Nah, it's because I know loads of muslims who are really nice civic minded individuals, way better people than many of my white friends and acquaintances or ocuk bigots and far less likely to be involved in crime than the many white and black crims I know, it's elementary.

Of course there many Muslims that are nice people. They have nothing to do with this as far as I am aware. If culturally christians were still sacrificing their children to god for example. Would it matter if there was some christians who did not agree to that?
 

I know you said it twice but I still don't know what you're trying to say

I was just retorting to the fellow who said we only defend muslims so we would appear to be on high horses to the foolish bigots whereas I do it because it's correct to do so and absolutely wrong to be a bigot.
 
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I know you said it twice but I still don't know what you're trying to say

I was just retorting to the fellow who said we only defend muslims so we would appear to be on high horses to the foolish bigots whereas I do it because it's correct to do so and absolutely wrong to be a bigot.

What is wrong is muslim culture where having child brides is acceptable. Pointing that out doesn't make anyone a bigot.
 
Well when the main figurehead of your religion consummates his marriage with his child bride at 10yr is probably a open sign for you to do what ever you want with young girls.

"From the 20th century onwards, a common point of contention has been Muhammad's marriage to Aisha, who was six or seven when betrothed to Muhammad and nine, or according to al-Tabari, ten, when the marriage was consummated."
 
Well when the main figurehead of your religion consummates his marriage with his child bride at 10yr is probably a open sign for you to do what ever you want with young girls.

"From the 20th century onwards, a common point of contention has been Muhammad's marriage to Aisha, who was six or seven when betrothed to Muhammad and nine, or according to al-Tabari, ten, when the marriage was consummated."

They'll try using the "it was a different time back then" argument against you for that. It's hilarious.

It was a different time - doesn't make it right though does it?! Surely God should know if something's bad and since prophets dictate Gods will...
 
Well when the main figurehead of your religion consummates his marriage with his child bride at 10yr is probably a open sign for you to do what ever you want with young girls.

"From the 20th century onwards, a common point of contention has been Muhammad's marriage to Aisha, who was six or seven when betrothed to Muhammad and nine, or according to al-Tabari, ten, when the marriage was consummated."

God raped Mary while she slept, roofy if you ask me, when she was under 12!

I say under 12 as that is when jewish girls of that era were married and virginity ended that night.

Lets face it everybody was a paedo back then various ancestors of our queen, William Wallace too, for all I know Robin Hood could have been a paedo.
 
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What is wrong is muslim culture where having child brides is acceptable. Pointing that out doesn't make anyone a bigot.

No, that doesn't make one a bigot. The problem is blaming the abuse on the religion and blaming Muslims just because they are Muslim. Frankly, only idiots ignore other factors and think it's to do with religion.

In any case, these threads just show how 'informed' people really are.
 
No, that doesn't make one a bigot. The problem is blaming the abuse on the religion and blaming Muslims just because they are Muslim. Frankly, only idiots ignore other factors and think it's to do with religion.

In any case, these threads just show how 'informed' people really are.

Equally only idiots rule out religion as being a possible cause.
 
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