***TWO VERY SPECIAL MONITORS: HAZRO HZ27 Series!**

Mr Krugga said:
What you're describing here is 1:1 pixel mapping and I was sure that HZ27WC doesn't support it meaning that it's most likely forced by the drivers.

My graphics card doesn't force anything like it so it doesn't seem to be a common problem but rather hardware specific.

As I said earlier, I can't comment on HDCP. I've gone briefly through the manual but couldn't find anything on it. It is likely that HZ27WC doesn't support HDCP as it doesn't have HDMI port either. Are you planning on watching BlueRay movies? You could always rip them in mkv beforehand.
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Before I bought the screen I was told that the scaling should be handled perfectly fine by the graphics drivers so I don't need to worry about the screen not having a hardware scaler.

Yes i'll be planning on watching BlueRay movies on the screen at some point.

If I knew the scaling wasn't going to work properly and this screen did not support HDCP then I would not have bought it, no way.

All the information for this screen on OcUK and TFT Central suggests it does support HDCP unless the information is actually not correct and information got mixed up somehow with the Hazro HZ27WA screen.

There is definitely some incompatibility with this screen with windows and graphics card software.
 
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My main concerns are that windows and the graphics card software is not recognizing the screen proprly and seeing it as a syncmaster and so might not be recognizing some of the screens functions and
also that the graphics card software scaling is not working properly when it should and some of the NVIDIA Control Panel options are not working with this screen either like the change resolution option in
the NVIDIA Control Panel being completely empty when it should list the screens supported resolutions and allows you to make a custom resolution.

See the screens I posted in post #148.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=18827262&postcount=148
 
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I have an ATI card (4890) and in the CCC it reports the screen as a syncmaster, too. This shouldn't do anything negative btw.

But i have no problems with scaling. The screen has no scalers so without doubt it's the GPU driver that is making it do what appears to be 1:1 pixel mapping.
 
My card an old Geforce 8800

Same faults reports as Syncmaster and nothing works in geforce panel cannot get gpu to scale and have had windows recover from nvidia software crash a couple times.

This does not bother me but am now convinced this is whats causing a problem of performance I am having in Lightroom which I put down to higher resouloution but now not so sure.

Run twin monitors other being an Asus which works fine on its own but has the same problems when Hazro plugged in & have tried switching them around to other ports.

Could anyone who has these monitors post on what cards do work it looks like nvidia cards not working.

This is Crazy never had a problem installing a monitor before and think for the price screen fantastic but really need it to be compatable with PC
 
Sylver123 said:
Before I bought the screen I was told that the scaling should be handled perfectly fine by the graphics drivers so I don't need to worry about the screen not having a hardware scaler.

Yes i'll be planning on watching BlueRay movies on the screen at some point.

If I knew the scaling wasn't going to work properly and this screen did not support HDCP then I would not have bought it, no way.
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What you described earlier (image fit in the centre, black borders) is 1:1 pixel mapping and as the HZ27WC doesn't have a scaler, it must be forced by drivers. Have you tried restoring default settings in Nvidia Control Panel?

All the information for this screen on OcUK and TFT Central suggests it does support HDCP unless the information is actually not correct and information got mixed up somehow with the Hazro HZ27WA screen.
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I don't know much about HDCP, afraid I can't help you with that. Try out some BlueRay movies and see if it works.

There is definitely some incompatibility with this screen with windows and graphics card software.
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If there is, it's hardware specific. As I said earlier, it is likely that your drivers are playing up.
 
Mr Krugga said:
What you described earlier (image fit in the centre, black borders) is 1:1 pixel mapping and as the HZ27WC doesn't have a scaler, it must be forced by drivers. Have you tried restoring default settings in Nvidia Control Panel?
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Yes I tried restoring default settings in the Nvidia software.

Mr Krugga said:
If there is, it's hardware specific. As I said earlier, it is likely that your drivers are playing up.
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Well I have tried the latest official drivers 266.58 and the beta ones 270.51 but they both give me the same problem.
 
Say my problems are down to my drivers are playing up, can anyone explain why some of the NVIDIA Control Panel options are not working with this screen but as soon as I plug in my old HP ZR24w screen, everything works perfectly fine again, all the options in the NVIDIA Control Panel etc?

Like I said, I have tried a fresh install of windows to rule out something not right with the windows install but this doesn't help and I still get the same problems.

I have noticed there is a guy in this thread that has posted about the exact same problems, so it's not just me.
 
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I would suggest trying different cable for instance.
Might be related to monitor reporting it's resolution to graphic card (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_Data_Channel / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDID)
You could try a switch to use other then supported resolutions somewhere in driver/monitor/system options(I don't recall exactly where atm).
Had to do so in linux with my 20wgx2 in order to work in native resolution(disable ddc/edid).
You can also try some livecd distro(archlinux is quite up to date - rolling system) and check if you get same problems there.
It might require some knowledge though to configure such things as i mentioned.
 
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Well I have just got a borrow of some real Bluray movies discs from a friend to test to see whether HDCP support is working on the Hazro HZ27WC
and guess what? HDCP isn't working as all my bluray player software is complaining that it can't play this disc as I don't have a HDCP compatible display.

This means that this screen definitely has either hardware incompatibility problems or windows and graphics card software problems or it does not support
HDCP at all despite all the information on the internet suggests it does.

Personally i`m not going to take this along with all the other problems i`m having with this screen and so i'm definitely going to see about sending
this screen back for a refund or exchange for a different product.
 
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taken from zotac site
My PC is HDCP compliant. When I attempt to playback content protected Blu-Ray or HD-DVD movieson my dual-link digital LCD PC monitor, I receive an HDCP error.

Playing HDCP content requires HDCP ready components, including but not limited to an HDCP ready PC monitor or HDTV, graphics card, Blu-ray or HD-DVD disc drive, software video player and operating system. If your monitor features a dual-link DVI connection to support higher digital resolutions, it is possible that HDCP will not work with your graphics card even though your graphics card is HDCP ready . Certain older NVIDIA based GPUs support HDCP in single-link DVI mode only. Currently, only the GeForce 8 series GPUs, excluding the GeForce 8800GTX/GTS/Ultra, support HDCP over a dual-link DVI connection.
 
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eltebe said:
taken from zotac site
My PC is HDCP compliant. When I attempt to playback content protected Blu-Ray or HD-DVD movieson my dual-link digital LCD PC monitor, I receive an HDCP error.

Playing HDCP content requires HDCP ready components, including but not limited to an HDCP ready PC monitor or HDTV, graphics card, Blu-ray or HD-DVD disc drive, software video player and operating system. If your monitor features a dual-link DVI connection to support higher digital resolutions, it is possible that HDCP will not work with your graphics card even though your graphics card is HDCP ready . Certain older NVIDIA based GPUs support HDCP in single-link DVI mode only. Currently, only the GeForce 8 series GPUs, excluding the GeForce 8800GTX/GTS/Ultra, support HDCP over a dual-link DVI connection.
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That information you've posted is old and is talking about old technology.

Modern graphics card be it NVIDIA or ATI do support HDCP over dual-link DVI.
 
For me its not just a case of this or that doent work

Nothing in the NVIDIA panel works it just crahes as soon as you change anything.

I love this monitor and will happily switch to ATI card if that fixes problems, just need this clarified is anyone else like Syler123 has asked using any NVIDIA card and not having issues.
 
maxzuk said:
For me its not just a case of this or that doent work

Nothing in the NVIDIA panel works it just crahes as soon as you change anything.

I love this monitor and will happily switch to ATI card if that fixes problems, just need this clarified is anyone else like Syler123 has asked using any NVIDIA card and not having issues.
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I think your old Geforce 8800 might not support a screen like the Hazro HZ27WC.

I tried connecting my Hazro HZ27WC also into my laptop and this has a NVIDIA GTX 285M GPU and HDCP DVI port and during loading windows I got a lot of crashes and also the NVIDIA Control Panel would crash etc.

As soon as I unplugged the screen my laptop works fine again.
 
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HDCP issue with ATI 6970

I've not read this whole thread, I only just found it today but decided to give my PC a quick try after reading of the issue.

Mine has the same issue.
Windows 7 64bit, Hazro 27C, XFX 6970, LG Blu Ray, Cyberlink PowerDVD8 (free with LG), Catalyst 11.2.
Looking at the device manager mine is also picked up as a Syncmaster.

Only tried WALL-E.
Reports an HDCP issue trying to play it.

I will have a play.
It wouldn't suprise me if this is just a monitor driver issue, once we get the correct Hazro driver this could easily rectify itself.
 
DarkCell said:
I've not read this whole thread, I only just found it today but decided to give my PC a quick try after reading of the issue.

Mine has the same issue.
Windows 7 64bit, Hazro 27C, XFX 6970, LG Blu Ray, Cyberlink PowerDVD8 (free with LG), Catalyst 11.2.
Looking at the device manager mine is also picked up as a Syncmaster.

Only tried WALL-E.
Reports an HDCP issue trying to play it.

I will have a play.
It wouldn't suprise me if this is just a monitor driver issue, once we get the correct Hazro driver this could easily rectify itself.
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Can your graphics card drop res and scale properly and is it stable as was looking at getting an ATI as convinced my old 8800 causing instability but now not sure.

Do we know if a Hazro inf driver is coming?
 
maxzuk said:
Can your graphics card drop res and scale properly and is it stable as was looking at getting an ATI as convinced my old 8800 causing instability but now not sure.

Do we know if a Hazro inf driver is coming?
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Tried dropping res to 1080, graphics card scaling to full screen/centred both have the same issue.

Who knows if Hazro are going to release a driver.

Incidentally I am only using the DVI cable that came with the monitor.
 
Just tried the CyberLink Blu-ray Disc Advisor (v2.0.1421.0) and it says Video Connection Type: Digital (without HDCP)

Still not sure if this is just a driver issue though.
 
maxzuk said:
Can your graphics card drop res and scale properly and is it stable as was looking at getting an ATI as convinced my old 8800 causing instability but now not sure.
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I have a 6950 - everything in the ati catalyst control center works perfectly, including scaling. It also shows as syncmaster.

Can't verify hdcp as I don't own a blueray drive.
 
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