Tyre Nichols murder

NVP said:
These same attitudes of mass complacency helped enable our governments to turn our countries to crap.
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You call it mass complacency I call it doing what you're told in a bad situation with the law.
Obviously you'd be like one of these people on the 100s of Police TV programmes where you'll stand there arguing and all the viewers are saying "What a prat".
Go you, be that man :)
 
VincentHanna said:
3 months academy training to be a cop? That can't be right. There must be more training than that
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This is Georgia we are talking about, they make some really smart decisions. They were struggling for corrections and police officers. The pay is not very good either.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
You call it mass complacency I call it doing what you're told in a bad situation with the law.
Obviously you'd be like one of these people on the 100s of Police TV programmes where you'll stand there arguing and all the viewers are saying "What a prat".
Go you, be that man :)
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And if the police are giving you contradictory orders you can't comply with?
 
Complying with the requests of police officers in the US is extremely important as not doing so often seems to end with people getting needlessly shot.

This pretty clearly didn't apply in this instance and was unprofessional from the moment it started. Total chaos and another dead man at the hands of power hungry lunatics.

Lessons learned blah blah blah....
 
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Zatoichi.uK said:
Complying with the requests of police officers in the US is extremely important as not doing so often seems to end with people getting needlessly shot.

This pretty clearly didn't apply in this instance and was unprofessional from the moment it started. Total chaos and another dead man at the hands of power hungry lunatics.

Lessons learned blah blah blah....
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Context is important, it doesn't "often" end with people getting shot, there are simply tens of thousands of interactions each week that don't involve anyone getting shot. America is a huge country with some 700,000 Police officers.
 
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Roar87 said:
Context is important, it doesn't "often" end with people getting shot, there are simply tens of thousands of interactions each week that don't involve anyone getting shot. America is a huge country with some 700,000 Police officers.
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With the broad number of interactions yes the percentage is tiny. Pretty much every interaction that goes south however is the result of people not complying with the demands of police officers. They escalate from that point leaving the officer few options.

Again this didn't seem to apply here though and was a disaster from the get go.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
You call it mass complacency I call it doing what you're told in a bad situation with the law.
Obviously you'd be like one of these people on the 100s of Police TV programmes where you'll stand there arguing and all the viewers are saying "What a prat".
Go you, be that man :)
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:confused: Getting senile?
 
SexyGreyFox said:
100%, I don't want to be that person who thinks they are better and refuse when confronted with a demand from the law.
You do you.
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I think you've misunderstood complacency for compliance. My statement was regarding your vindication of the outcome, not the actions of the victim.
 
isn't it basic 101 from the movies, you keep your hands on the wheel (unless in self drive/autopilot mode), equally you don't turn around and say I'm on the ground when you are just knelt down.
 

For those saying if you follow police commands correctly, you wont end up getting assaulted, this guy begs to differ.
His head got stomped on, potentially concussing him and then again deliver kicks and more beatings when he is showing signs of being injured.
Cops need a medical lesson in what a concussion does to you and the impacts it can have on further health. All cops involved in TN and the tweet above deserve to be curb stomped, over and over again.

But yeah, again its going to be, if you dont resist none of this will happen to you.
 
People seem to forget the Americans have televised a culture of running from the police whether that be in the COPS TV show or their News Live coverage of car chases.
 
sidimmu said:

For those saying if you follow police commands correctly, you wont end up getting assaulted, this guy begs to differ.
His head got stomped on, potentially concussing him and then again deliver kicks and more beatings when he is showing signs of being injured.
Cops need a medical lesson in what a concussion does to you and the impacts it can have on further health. All cops involved in TN and the tweet above deserve to be curb stomped, over and over again.

But yeah, again its going to be, if you dont resist none of this will happen to you.
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I assume you have further context on why this guy was apprehended, thus why they went to this level of force seemingly off the bat?

im playing devils advocate on this one. Im so bored of the cliche "look what happens if you dont resist and comply peacefully 1 in 100k arrest videos you end up getting a kick or roughed up anyway."

The murder of the Tyre was off the rails and is obviously criminal and punishable by the courts, hopefully wit maximum heft.
 
NVP said:
People seem to forget the Americans have televised a culture of running from the police whether that be in the COPS TV show or their News Live coverage of car chases.
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like you've said, everyone has said, ive thought, running is a natural reaction in both being caught and being in a fearful situation. Its a no win situation too, because they pin it on you as an offence in the aftermath. Honestly just thankful i dont live in America. i remember looking up to american culture in the 80s/90s now its just a cess pit. Eating its self alive. a 3rd world police state inside "The great land of the free"
 
Efour said:
like you've said, everyone has said, ive thought, running is a natural reaction in both being caught and being in a fearful situation. Its a no win situation too, because they pin it on you as an offence in the aftermath. Honestly just thankful i dont live in America. i remember looking up to american culture in the 80s/90s now its just a cess pit. Eating its self alive. a 3rd world police state inside "The great land of the free"
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American policing was even worse in the 80s and 90s…
 
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