Tyre Nichols murder

100% your just on the wind up now.

"good reason" for the stop was him dating one of the cop's wifes....Come on even you must know how ridiculous you sound trying to justify the "stop"

Err...you do get sarcasm, right?
 
I dont believe that to be the case in this instance, they were punishing him. They weren't scared at any point in time when they had him held on the ground shouting at him.


For all we know he ran to avoid being killed in the street like a dog.

It was it was revenge for pepper spraying each other in the face. They lost their rag over it.

Of course he ran to "save his own life" thats the whole dilemma.
Firstly you shouldn't have to fear for your life being arrested, but that seems more common in the USA so it seems.
Secondly the idiot cops probably just interpret this as guilt and respond like dogs to a porkchop.
They get off on catching him again, finally, and after they embarrass themselves with pepper spray they take it out on the victim/suspect.
Just ******** of society. Legalised thugs.
 
I wouldn't say they interpreted his running as guilt, simply disobedience to their authority.

As I said at the start of this thread, these guys weren't some gung ho shoot first cops, or your "don't make me run" cops, they were a mob of savage animals hung out on their power trip out to harm from the offset.


These weren't your average cops, they were given specific powers as part of their special unit, again lending to the superiority/authority narrative which is why I think these guys had been unaccountably abusive for a long time.
 
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So, to what extent are more senior police officers being held responsible? Or holding themselves responsible? Any offers of resignation? Any dismissals?

Do I hear crickets?

America isn't going to sort out its police problem until senior officers are held responsible.
 
So, to what extent are more senior police officers being held responsible? Or holding themselves responsible? Any offers of resignation? Any dismissals?

Do I hear crickets?

America isn't going to sort out its police problem until senior officers are held responsible.
It'll never sort it out.
as long as the ratio of events like these to People crazy/loyal enough to be good cops stays at 100000 to 1 (number plucked from ass) it will carry on.
 
Strange individual.


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So, to what extent are more senior police officers being held responsible? Or holding themselves responsible? Any offers of resignation? Any dismissals?

Do I hear crickets?

America isn't going to sort out its police problem until senior officers are held responsible.
Senior police officers in the USA (County Sherif, Chief of Police, Commissioners etc.) are elected. Queue South American / Middle Eastern level of nepotism, corruption and local politics.

If their superiors at the County/State level doesn’t dismiss them, they don’t resign and they aren’t arrested; they have to be voted out at the next election.

And the County/City/State pays out any compensation from the public purse.

And none of the Federal alphabet agencies are any better.
 
total disgrace - at least the police department quickly got rid of the officers involved and started proceedings against them this time.
Quickest I’ve seen

America really is in the ****

I know there’s deeper issues worldwide though with police etc all covered up for years
 
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The one thing I've learned over the years is if I'm in any Country and I get pulled over by Cops (especially America) I'm playing sleeping lions.
Obviously if I'm drunk that's another matter but everybody who knows me that with each pint I get sleepier and subdued anyway.

Completely shocking what has happened but if Cops tell you to do something you don't even ask how much.
 
Do people reckon there will be more dismissals and charges? Seemed to be a few standing watching this un fold and did nothing.
 
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Do people reckon there will be more dismissals and charges? Seemed to be a few standing watching this un fold and did nothing.

I find it disturbing the paramedics just stood there. Surely they have a duty, maybe not the same as doctors but still a duty to treat someone in need of medical attention.
 
Do people reckon there will be more dismissals and charges? Seemed to be a few standing watching this un fold and did nothing.
Yes I do.
5 officers going to court for the murder of the man but plenty of other offices involved, big fat whitey who was "hoping he gets stomped" needs to have his job gone, as well as every officer who was involved in the initial stop.
Hell from what we have seen, sack everyone that has any connection with that task force, they cannot be trusted.
 
I find it disturbing the paramedics just stood there. Surely they have a duty, maybe not the same as doctors but still a duty to treat someone in need of medical attention.
US cops have been known to assault and arrest hospital staff, paramedics and even firefighters actively working to save lives if they do anything to upset the cops, such as for example not stopping work on a crash to move a fire engine, or opening the doors of an ambulance in an ambulance only emergency bay at the ER of a hospital to get a patient who is serious ill out, and hitting the side of a police car that had pulled in next to them (in the marked ambulance only bay).

I would hope that everyone who stood around and allowed this to happen/didn't take any action to provide care would get charged, or face professional misconduct investigations but this is US police who IIRC have been rules repeatedly that they don't have to render aid and routinely prevent first aiders from rendering aid to people they've shot.
 
The one thing I've learned over the years is if I'm in any Country and I get pulled over by Cops (especially America) I'm playing sleeping lions.
Obviously if I'm drunk that's another matter but everybody who knows me that with each pint I get sleepier and subdued anyway.

Completely shocking what has happened but if Cops tell you to do something you don't even ask how much.
A large part of the problem highlighted in this case is, the guy DID comply at first, but they kept screaming "stop resisting" and beating him for not doing things the other officers were preventing him from being able to do.
His initial "resistance" was entirely down to the officers restraining him so he couldn't comply and things like him twitching when hit.

It's a really common one with US police (I've seen the theory advanced that they're trained to say that by the police union as it means anything caught on microphone but not camera it's a get out), and they'll scream it even when the person is doing what they are told.
Or as I think has been mentioned, how common it is for someone to get done for "resisting arrest" and "not complying" (and sometimes even killed for it) when they're getting told to do completely contradictory things by multiple officers, often with the same officer issuing contradictory instructions in rapid succession "don't move-put your hands up-on the ground-don't move-hands behind head".

I've seen US lawyers point out how often they've seen cases where the primary (and sometimes only) charge against someone is "resisting arrest".
 
US cops have been known to assault and arrest hospital staff, paramedics and even firefighters actively working to save lives if they do anything to upset the cops, such as for example not stopping work on a crash to move a fire engine, or opening the doors of an ambulance in an ambulance only emergency bay at the ER of a hospital to get a patient who is serious ill out, and hitting the side of a police car that had pulled in next to them (in the marked ambulance only bay).

I would hope that everyone who stood around and allowed this to happen/didn't take any action to provide care would get charged, or face professional misconduct investigations but this is US police who IIRC have been rules repeatedly that they don't have to render aid and routinely prevent first aiders from rendering aid to people they've shot.

Just one more sign that their police are out of control on a power trip and aren't serving the community but are serving themselves with no oversight that is worth a damn.
 
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