It was not proven false the division we have now has downgraded graphics over what was shown at the shows before it came out. Not only that but some of the advanced graphics features are still broken and unusable 1 year after the game has been out. The Division is one of the best looking PC games but its a classic case of UBI downgrading
Ubisoft - How much longer can they get away with this 'downgrading'?
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then either dont bring it up or dont complain when your point is countered. it was you who mentioned other devs and yet still continue to do so.
As for your second excellently well put point... lol, I am bringing these points up yet neither of you 2 are addressing them, always just throwing silly lines like that and "circle jerk, tears" etc.
show me where i said that.
wow.
Look, points have already been made. You're not going to change my opinion of ubisoft or expo trailers. I'm not silly; I dont form any opinions on them and i dont waste my time complaining about them.
When major graphics features has been broken in game for 1 year we have been mislead. How can you say otherwise?
Sorry you are clearly talking rubbish and you need to go to spec savers, there has been no downgrade at all...
The fact he even said that is just laughable and makes the rest of his points completely mute, downgrade claims are "false" lmao...
Urgh.............. Because those other developers I mentioned have never shown false trailers like what ubi, CDPR etc. have shown.... If it makes you feel better, from now on I will also include those developers along with ubi in my points about downgrades...
Again, my main question/point is, if those companies like DICE, rockstar can show accurate trailers before the game is released then why can't ubi (and others) do the same?
Rockstar, rocksteady, blizzard etc. are perfectly capable of showing accurate footage of what the final game will be like months/years before release therefore.... ubi, CDPR etc. are also capable of showing accurate footage before the final game is released.... but they "choose" not to for whatever reason, be it to generate more hype/interest in their game and as a result cash in on more pre-orders.
How is that point so hard to grasp....
The circle jerk comments are referring to mid gens posts as mynight has also picked up on, never get a proper answer other than "circle jerk, tears"...
Well you are certainly coming across as very defensive for them and thus could also be seen as "wasting" your time by defending them...
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You crack me up
Like I said, I don't care any more for any type of trailer, no matter who it is by or what game it is, as games these days very rarely live up to expectations and more often than not fall flat on their face come release day.
I just find it amazing that people defend these shenanigans, I can understand your view point since you work for the most renowned company for doing said act but still, it is just mind boggling.
PS. Still waiting for answers to these:
Or will they be ignored once again?
Its not just the trailers its the broken graphics features in the game even after a year.
What are you referring to? Got any screenshots showing the issues?
Can't say that I've noticed any graphical issues with the division.
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Nexus surely you really cant be that bothered about the downgrading of the visuals as your running a 7+ year cpu and a 290 gpu? Come on dude, I understand we all want the best visuals possible but games like The Division look nice and are still hard to max out on todays hardware.
The way I see it as long as the game runs well, looks half decent and has good game play I am happy.
The way I see it as long as the game runs well, looks half decent and has good game play I am happy.
Nexus surely you really cant be that bothered about the downgrading of the visuals as your running a 7+ year cpu and a 290 gpu? Come on dude, I understand we all want the best visuals possible but games like The Division look nice and are still hard to max out on todays hardware.
The way I see it as long as the game runs well, looks half decent and has good game play I am happy.
I run division more or less maxed out except for shadows and aa and still get a min of 50 FPS with DX 12 now, with DX 11, I have to drop a fair amount more settings and FPS would drop to the 40s.
In fact all games still run very well on my PC especially when a low level API is available, I only really have to drop aa and shadows and for the rare demanding game, from ultra preset to high.
Completely agree with your last paragraph, like I said, I don't care if visuals aren't that good, for me, it is more the principle and I just find it amusing those defending the downgrades
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And as mentioned earlier with watch dogs, a lot of the features and graphics which were turned back on via mods and the config files had little to no impact on performance.
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Very defensive? No, I just dont care about expo trailers. There's nothing 'very defensive' about my posts at all.
If you turn all the settings to max like Ambient Occlusion with HBAO+ you suddenly lose half the static lights, lose dynamic lights and a whole bunch of effects disappear. Everything goes super dark and it looks like a game from 10 years ago. Basically the high end graphics settings are broken.
Ah doesn't sound too good that!
I don't have everything maxed and I hate HBAO+, it might look nice at first but it creates shadows on everything when it shouldn't be.
On max settings with Ambient Occlusion on and shadows on max with HBAO+, the game is unplayable. Basic light sources are broken and missing it’s so dark you can stand next to a table with a light on it and not be able to see 70% of what’s in the room. On max settings The Division graphics are broken and look worse then a 10 year old game. Turn the settings just down from max just a little and the game goes from looking terrible to stunning. Its crazy how on max settings it looks x10 worse then on just below max.
Absolutely.
Was having a discussion with a friend the other day, he was arguing the point that this shouldn't be happening in the first place. That we shouldn't be but in the position where we can buy anything less then the advertised product. A bit of an idealist perspective if you ask me. We have to deal with what we have. We KNOW that developers have the capacity to lie to us through gameplay trailers etc. so we HAVE to be responsible consumers.
Don't get overly excited, check for dodgy looking review embargos (yes, Bethesda BS included) and NEVER pre order. Whens the last time you heard of a game selling out day one? If you use key sites to get the game cheaper beforehand, just wait and see! You'll loose a tenner at most? If you're that tight for cash, why are you putting down money on a game that's not even been reviewed yet? Have a little conviction else you've no right to complain.
That's not true as we have been lied to as features like Ambient Occlusion are being sold as part of the game but UBI are not bothering to fix it and its never worked. This isn't about 2 years before release, this is about release features being broken a year after release. What we have been shown as part of the release game isn't working.