well said. Kept telling hose lto to read your post before spouting rubbish on how your posts are rubbish. Once in a while these blooming read
Serious question; do we know for certain whether jonney isn't DM?
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Serious question; do we know for certain whether jonney isn't DM?
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ffs, its not accurate, the player he passed to is the best part of 30 to 40 yards away from WHERE HE GETS THE BALL, not just Rooney. Accurate would be the guy already standing there and putting it on his foot.
Pinging it down the field where the playing running on to it can make adjustments isn't difficult, pinging a ball 50 yards into a corner where no one is, is not difficult, that is NOT a difficult pass, its bog standard, its more obvious and more seen when you have fast wingers, because when people do that with slow wingers, it looks stupid, and the SAME exact pass with a fast guy getting to it before it goes out, apparently looks like genius. Which is why its not surprising you see it a lot at Spurs, Lennon, Bale make that a good out ball.
But passing it into the corner when your player starts in your own half, sorry, I'll never be convinced that is some how hard, or the sign of a great player.
Also Rooney is known for it, lol, and people suggesting seriously that Rooney could take over for Scholes is so ridiculously, hilariously stupid I really don't know what to say to it. Take over for scholes because he can kick the ball really long, because that is the skill required to execute that pass. its the small intricate vision inspired, defence splitting passes that made Scholes the epic player he was, and Rooney doesn't have that ability, at all.
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***. that's why he drops deep and gets so frustrated.
Can you imagine what happens when saf throws you your shirt and days, 'right wazza you're up top tonight - with cheese sung park supporting'.
If it were me id be thinking 'please no'. And why? Is one of the richest clubs in the world choosing to play this guy in an absolutely pivotal match that is really do or die?
I look at city they can just throw one of nasri or silva or others. need a goal? Cool throw on a 17 foot dzeko, or aguero or balotelli.
Not flipping wellbeck and macheda. i mean seriously. i know that city failed to qualify, but they wouldnt have failed to qualify from our group. and regardless of the situation they went out and did all they could - but the situation was out of their hands.
All we needed was a draw. and we lost. it's really pitiful.
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how can people think rooney can take scholes place. LOL
Looks like DM's got his very own groupie
It's no worse than Purdy following you around like a love strict teenager though
Please show me somewhere someone has said this?
Or just keep posting stupid one liners and embarrassing yourself while sucking up to DM. I bet you don't even read what he writes and just want to wind people up - you're good at that if nothing else.
It's no worse than Purdy following you around like a love strict teenager though
If you're going to follow somebody, you may as well follow the best.
Hence why I was comparing Rooney's long ball passing ability to Dawson and Benny. Anyone can do it over 40/50 yards into space.
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Because, your stats are wrong(if only a bit) and contextually inaccurate, and your posts general theme either meant to or not, came across as "these stats prove Klose isn't a great striker".
In which case, you were wrong, and given a player in his situation, lower scoring league, not a great club his goal scoring is good but its not just his goal scoring that is good about his game. If you look at his Germany record he averaged over a 1 goal in 2 games, and most seasons was significantly ahead of that, with a couple duff years dragging it down.
People always try and focus on one line of a post and throw everything else out from there. I was saying Klose is a truly world class player, and stated he was still getting a 1 in 2 goal ratio, I meant more like, banging them in at this age, but its fair enough to say he's done it before and he's done it again.
Your post came across as, "you're wrong, he's bad" and my post wasn't to disprove the stats, but to disprove the notion that he wasn't a great player.
As for RVP, his goal scoring has improved, his finishing has improved as he used to miss quite a lot of chances..... as ALL players do, even Messi and Ronaldo, somehow people seem to lately think someone missed a chance so he's crap, Ronaldo misses more than Messi but fair enough Ronaldo shoots from huge range often, from inside the box Ronaldo is god damned lethal(maybe more so than Messi....... especially lately).
RVP hasn't actually gotten better though, he's doing a Rooney, he's in the box more, or arriving at the right time, maybe his timing has improved, maybe the league got worse.
You just have to go back to video's of his early seasons, there were dozen's of moments of genius in his first season, things he does less often even now. I love RVP, I've stated he's been great for ages, more than most, but the majority of his goals this year are tap in's, thats largely down to, dare I say it, Theo improving somewhat, or more Arsenal just playing faster in midfield and getting forward quicker making balls into the box or in behind simply easier than playing forward ultra slowly.
RVP is a fantastic passer of the ball, turning on the ball, turning and shooting, dribbling in from the wing and scoring from a stupid tight angle, the same way Arshavin did in his first few months that had people drooling, RVP was doing that kind of stuff in his first season.
He isn't/wasn't a front man striker, he started at Arsenal as a withdrawn striker, he was always spoken of as Bergkamps natural successor, NOT Henry's. his build up play, passing, vision, apparently all but forgotten was incredibly good from the day he joined Arsenal.
I don't know if he's worse at that, these days Arsenal play in a way that he finishes the chances, not set's them up, if anything it suggests he can do either and can player either way incredibly well.
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Ah sorry, I thought you were on the "other" side of that. yes, passing 15 yards between 6 players to put the ball behind the defence with in inches of a player running on to it who then has a great chance to score, GREAT pass, there is a handful of guys who can do that successfully, repeatedly, throughout a career.
Banging it into an empty half, 50-60 yards and hoping someone gets to it in time, lol, difficult........ its just always wound me up that people rate that as some magical thing only a few players are capable of. Gerrard for donkeys year's has been getting credit for this super difficult pass......does my head in.
In this case the stats are more than relevant as the initial argument was that Rooney was 1 of the top 10 strikers in the world, and as a striker you only get judged on how many times and how often you put the ball in the net.
No worries, if I wanted to compare him to a proper passer, I would have used Modric.
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Regarding the Scholes stuff, I never suggested Rooney should be Scholes' replacement, merely that others have suggested it so don't spin it out into that.
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Rooney can pass and has quite tidy feet.
he is closer to a scholes replacement than carrick, fletcher, gibson, and a whole myriad of others.
only cleverly or Ando are better in midfield than rooney.
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Yes but there is this huge rock in my garden that is closer to being a replacement for Scholes than Gibson....... and being worse than Ando suggests Rooney isn't remotely close to good enough in midfield
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This rock of yours... 18 million enough? That seems to be the going rate we pay for useless midfielders?
