Am I the only one who found this hilarious?
I'm going to use this in future...when I'm in an argument, I shall draw out the 20 year old TV excuse.
UEFA Euro 2012 - Group D - ** spoilers ** (England, France, Sweden, Ukraine)
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Am I the only one who found this hilarious?
I'm going to use this in future...when I'm in an argument, I shall draw out the 20 year old TV excuse.
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I think he should push milner in to make a central 3, I feel bad for them because they clearly are hampered by Injuries and a lack of match fitness
I think it probably comes from England not being able to string 5 simple passes together or that when we are 1-0 up and just have to control play and make the opposition come and get the ball we pick it up from defence or the keeper and still pump it forward to their defenders to give them control right back again.
It's as though we think we are running more time down by making them cover the length of the pitch again.
Or it could be that all of our midfield look so **** that Gerrard looks like he's Mr consistent. Even though like most of the team he's giving the ball away for fun and not winning it enough.
The again it might be that our back four is giving even the midfield so little confidence, especially with Terrys woeful positioning and lack of pace that our defenders are dropping so deep to protect his out of depth backside.
Or it might be that almost every tournie we enter in the last 25 years the left has always been our weak point, now we have such problems on the left and right people are actually begging for walcott. God how far we have fallen.
Or that we have a front man 'talisman' who hasn't played for england on another level since he was in an everton shirt, even if part of the reason is supply.
For me personally it's that the group we were in was utterly dreadful and we played well for maybe 30 minutes of each match being generous.
I'm pleased for Roy at least that he wont get slaughtered now, but my god does that england team need a huge clear out for the next one. It wont happen though
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Have to agree, despite the team getting knocked by some people (sports journalists or people on twitter) Roy has brought organisation and discipline to the team. It is not pretty football but so far, so good its winning games and if England can make the semi finals, well then one can dream!
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Soldato
from what i've seen so far if he thought it would suit the team in a game he'd do it.
best thing from being in charge even this short time is that he seems to be a bit flexible in personnel he'll use and how he'll set the team out.
seen mention of the system being defensive etc but he realises he hasn't got the players with the quality to play the attacking/passing style of the spanish or germans.
we're struggling to defend as it is so can only imagine the grief we'd get trying to playing attacking.
Don
Hahaha, just on the news now that Blatter is saying that goal line technology is now a necessity.
I personally couldn't care less how badly we played in any of the 3 group games when the most important element was that we won 2 and drew 1 and topped the group. If someone had given me that leading up to the tournament I would have taken it.
You don't win football matches by playing brilliant football, Arsenal and Spurs have proven that this season, you win it by outscoring your opponents regardless of how it is done.
I would gladly take 3 more performances like we had against Ukraine if the outcome was the same.
As for our best performer so far, it so isn't Gerrard.
You don't win football matches by playing brilliant football, Arsenal and Spurs have proven that this season, you win it by outscoring your opponents regardless of how it is done.
I would gladly take 3 more performances like we had against Ukraine if the outcome was the same.
As for our best performer so far, it so isn't Gerrard.
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We've played really poorly so far and been quite lucky to get where we are ruight now in some respects.
We have a spattering of quality in the team but overall our inability to get hold of the ball and control the middle of the pitch against the teams we have played so far.
If Ukraine had a bit more quality up front in the squad without shevchenko then im sure we could have come a bit unstuck.
We have a spattering of quality in the team but overall our inability to get hold of the ball and control the middle of the pitch against the teams we have played so far.
If Ukraine had a bit more quality up front in the squad without shevchenko then im sure we could have come a bit unstuck.
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On Blatter, the last tourney had no extra goal line ref's, this tourney has them, the next will have goal line tech. ULtimately that is progression. The real thing that Ukraine can be angry about it, the England goal was from a greater difference and MUCH faster, harder hit, faster moving ball and no one standing directly on the line. This one was moving slower, was easier to see the chance was coming and there was some ***** standing on the line watching and missing the blatantly obvious.
Blatter will get asked about things and answer them, this question would have been given to him no matter who a goal line incident occurred against, anyone who thinks its got anything to do with England is daft.
England, they've looked no more or less organised than previous teams. People seem to ignore that Capello wasn't fired for poor performance, the team was doing well with Wilshire/Parker/Lampard, infact its a better team playing better football than we have now and excellent defensively. Compared to the last tournament we have an actual defensive midfielder, last tournament we had Barry but even so we haven't played anyone remotely good.
Anyone who didn't think we were odd's on to qualify for the knock out stages simply knows squat about football. Its easy to look fairly organised against poor teams. I also find it hard to call the team organised with so so many shots on target conceded against France and Ukraine when neither team is playing particularly well AND we spent so long defending. But for Parker having magnets snuck into all the balls and his shin pads we could have conceded many goals the way we've played.
We've done okay, we haven't played well, we haven't played any top teams, there aren't many top teams in the Euro's.
Blatter will get asked about things and answer them, this question would have been given to him no matter who a goal line incident occurred against, anyone who thinks its got anything to do with England is daft.
England, they've looked no more or less organised than previous teams. People seem to ignore that Capello wasn't fired for poor performance, the team was doing well with Wilshire/Parker/Lampard, infact its a better team playing better football than we have now and excellent defensively. Compared to the last tournament we have an actual defensive midfielder, last tournament we had Barry but even so we haven't played anyone remotely good.
Anyone who didn't think we were odd's on to qualify for the knock out stages simply knows squat about football. Its easy to look fairly organised against poor teams. I also find it hard to call the team organised with so so many shots on target conceded against France and Ukraine when neither team is playing particularly well AND we spent so long defending. But for Parker having magnets snuck into all the balls and his shin pads we could have conceded many goals the way we've played.
We've done okay, we haven't played well, we haven't played any top teams, there aren't many top teams in the Euro's.
Am I the only one who found this hilarious?
I'm going to use this in future...when I'm in an argument, I shall draw out the 20 year old TV excuse.
I actually didn't think it was as obvious as some are making out because the frame of the goal obscured the view a bit.... I've seen many more blatant goals disallowed.
I do not understand the well organised defensive yarn pundits keep spinning. Parker is at his best when he is not making lunging blocks but stopping the shooting opportunity from ever arising
Him and gerrard look dead on their feet trying to close down 3 man midfields. Ukraine played much better than us and but for some dodgy keeping and some woeful finishing from them, they would have won.
If we stick with this set up, better teams will play through our middle at will and we will be troubced
On the positive side, I think Woy conducts himself with extreme dignity and intelligence and I hope he caries on being manager.
Him and gerrard look dead on their feet trying to close down 3 man midfields. Ukraine played much better than us and but for some dodgy keeping and some woeful finishing from them, they would have won.
If we stick with this set up, better teams will play through our middle at will and we will be troubced
On the positive side, I think Woy conducts himself with extreme dignity and intelligence and I hope he caries on being manager.
Usual hype, I think the defence is reasonably good when there is time for the two banks of four to form up, the players are quite disciplined in that situation. More worrying are fast counter attacks, and I agree that we should adopt a more contemporary shape midfield when in possession. Holding onto the hope that Roy has changed things each game and will do so again.
Soldato
don't think he has much choice in what he can do, not like he has any valid options to replace gerrard and parker.
can imagine he was looking to be able to rest them/rotate them with lampard and barry, but due to the lack of depth available to him he didn't have that choice so he's having to keep them on the pitch for near enough every game.
would hope there both on light training with plenty of rest.
Am I the only one who found this hilarious?
I'm going to use this in future...when I'm in an argument, I shall draw out the 20 year old TV excuse.
Did I not mention the dodgy signal!? All I could really see on that screen was a blur of the crossbar, the ball and Terry's socks!
Anyone that watches tennis knows that line judges get it wrong quite a bit and sometimes by larger amounts than this goal(was it even a tennis ball's width over the line?)
Caporegime
Tenniz is quite a bit faster though and the ball is smaller.
True, but that football line judges get this wrong should be no surprise.