UEFA Euro 2020 Semi Finals ** spoilers ** [6th - 7th July 2021]

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It really hasn't, we have just been bombarded with ******** in the media about how horrible the country is and everyone on twitter saying that everyone is racist, sexist and a transphobe.
A bit off-topic now, but I'd say we're on a kind of slow decline. I look at the place where I grew up and it's a complete ****-hole now.

The middle classes are doing OK but the poor are still poor, and there's no reason to look after their own homes because they all rent from private landlord. The council's don't have money to look after the place any more, and it's all just falling apart.

Inequality is destroying places like where I grew up. So yeah, we are going backwards in some metrics.
 
It really hasn't, we have just been bombarded with ******** in the media about how horrible the country is and everyone on twitter saying that everyone is racist, sexist and a transphobe.

We are just a country of self loathing. Most countries are proud of their nationality and have the slight amount of intelligence to understand that nowhere is perfect but that doesn't mean you can't have pride in your country without being a xenophobic oik.

There doesn't seem to be much middle ground anymore.
no we really ahve gone backwards but thats for another thread, not here
 
A bit off-topic now, but I'd say we're on a kind of slow decline. I look at the place where I grew up and it's a complete ****-hole now.

The middle classes are doing OK but the poor are still poor, and there's no reason to look after their own homes because they all rent from private landlord. The council's don't have money to look after the place any more, and it's all just falling apart.

Inequality is destroying places like where I grew up. So yeah, we are going backwards in some metrics.

Yeah, you can thank Blair et al for suggesting it's "racist" to fly the union jack or suggest that maybe we should talk about whether we wanted complete freedom of movement within the EU. Then Blair and Brown for deregulating the financial services industry contributing to the 2008 crash, then Cameron and Osborne for defunding pretty much all public services and welfare under the name of "austerity" while pandering to their rich chums and restricting hmrc investigation into offshore and tax evasion etc.

Inequality is growing and the gov. don't give a damn, yet enough average people keep voting for them because "taxes are bad". FFS we'll get like Greece before too long.
 
I'm not, just disagreeing.

You're trying to suggest the players can't remember a few words despite them likely being more educated than the lads were back then.

It's about the passion and how some people view that these days when it all looks a bit too patriotic.

It's true, the biggest factor in international football is how loudly you sing a completely meaningless song.

That wasn't even being suggested but nice take.
 
If any comparison could be made, Denmark are like the Leicester of the Premier League, not just saying because of Schmeichel, however the odds back in 92, were probably the same as when we won the league.

Unlikely, people seem to forget that when Denmark won in 92 only 8 teams were in it. Yes they weren't favourites but nothing like the longshots Leicester were.

yup and players like sterling will get abused outside of a game but praised as the second coming whenever he scored for england or even the club they support.

Well good job you're not one of those fans that flip flops like that hey!
 
It's true, the biggest factor in international football is how loudly you sing a completely meaningless song.
No you're confusing the Euros with Eurovision. One has a load of groups of enthusiatic people, some bearded, in silly clothes, prancing around a stage while singing some nonsense before some questionable judging and lots of spectators decides who wins, the other has teams of people, some with beards, in silly clothes singing an anthem, half the time badly, or sometimes unintelligibly, before prancing around a pitch with a ball, whereby some questionable refereeing influences who wins to the mirth/misery of the many spectators.
 
Yeah, you can thank Blair et al for suggesting it's "racist" to fly the union jack or suggest that maybe we should talk about whether we wanted complete freedom of movement within the EU. Then Blair and Brown for deregulating the financial services industry contributing to the 2008 crash, then Cameron and Osborne for defunding pretty much all public services and welfare under the name of "austerity" while pandering to their rich chums and restricting hmrc investigation into offshore and tax evasion etc.

Inequality is growing and the gov. don't give a damn, yet enough average people keep voting for them because "taxes are bad". FFS we'll get like Greece before too long.
well said
 
It's about the passion and how some people view that these days when it all looks a bit too patriotic.

The italian players and fans were belting out their national anthem before the game. You can never accuse the Italians of being a bit limp when it comes to patriotism. Why not eh? You should be proud to represent your country at the highest level of any sport.
 
The italian players and fans were belting out their national anthem before the game. You can never accuse the Italians of being a bit limp when it comes to patriotism. Why not eh? You should be proud to represent your country at the highest level of any sport.
What if you are actually not that "proud" of your country due to how its been run and the kind of people there?

You see, part of being proud of a international team is backed by actually being proud of the country itself and the way you feel its being run etc etc.

Basically, for me anyway i support and back the england football team and its staff.
 
You're trying to suggest the players can't remember a few words despite them likely being more educated than the lads were back then.

It's about the passion and how some people view that these days when it all looks a bit too patriotic.

Who could actually sing the national anthem.....I dont know the words other than a few lines, why would young players. Far more likely/logical than being scared to be patriotic, thats Daily Mail level nonsense.
 
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