UEFA Euro 2024 Group C ** spoilers ** (Slovenia, Denmark, Serbia, ENGLAND)
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Pretty much true this. Apparently someone had a great game driving the midfield forward when he came on yet 35 passes he made 21 were backwards.
Numpties of other teams? I recall many a post from Liverpool fans deriding his defensive / positional ability. He's the most dribbled past defender in all the top leagues if I'm not mistaken. It's pretty clear which is his strongest role when it comes to defence / attack.
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Most dribbled past stat is hilarious. Look at the City game against Doku. Dribbled past Trent loads and he went nowhere but backwards.
Robinson and Porro are 2nd and 3rd on the list just behind Trent and everyone raved about them.
they are numpties too
To late now, but Klopp wanted his RB to be forward, the space vacated by Trent was to be filled by a cb/the right sided midfielder. The same happned with Bradely - hell it happens with every rb in a top team. Walker gets caught 'out of position' playing for Man city, crickets from folks tho, because that isn't the narrative.Ahh yes, dribbled past, the most useless stat in modern football. Here's 7 examples in one game where he is dribbled past..apparently (spoiler, its actually twice)
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I've never seen someone skinned as much as him vs us. Martinelli just drifted past him without so much as a dropped shoulder. There's not doubt he's a talented footballer but he thrived as an attacking player in a team who had plenty of cover for him. To drop him into midfield like Southgate has is crazy considering his complete lack of experience there.
Bang on, with 3 midfielders on the bench too.
All FBs get dribbled past though, attacking ones more so. I can't find the table for this year but like I said, Robinson and Porro are just behind Trent. Dribbled past is only important if it leads to something. I never see stats for this so I guess Trent isn't high on it as it doesn't fit the agenda.
Thing is Trent is just miles clear of any other RB or fullback going forward it outweighs any defensive problems, especially in a very boring England team going forward.
Why can't Stones cover for Trent, apparently he's one of the best CB's ever. Or does it have to be Quansah covering Trent?
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I'd try TAA RB and Walker LB in the next game. Start Mianoo, Palmer and Gordon. Bench Bellingham and Saka.
Not with the ease that he does and no it doesn't outweigh the defensive problems against good teams. England aren't built the way Liverpool were in his most successful seasons, he doesn't have the cover from midfield and CB so he can just do his thing. Stating chances created stats for a position whose primary role is defence is pretty pointless, to me it just points to our attacking players not doing enough.
I'd bin Foden. Let Jude cook in his role without another chef getting in his way.
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Because of dopey lads piling money on them at the bookies.
So Stones and Rice can't provide cover for a fullback like a Fabinho and Matip did.
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I dunno. I think Foden has been the pick of the poor bunch attacking wise across all three games. Looks miles better when he drifts towards the middle. Actually thought he was probably England's best player tonight. Bellingham has been wandering around looking absolutely knackered for most of the time. I wonder if Jude is actually on holiday and they've done a bait and switch with his Wish version brother from Sunderland instead? Like on House of the Dragon yesterday.
I'm sure they could if that's the way we decided to play but we haven't, not actually sure what we are trying to play. I'd probably play him RB against the weaker teams to be fair.
That's the trouble though, he's drifting in all the time making the middle of the park congested. We looked more dangerous in 6 mins Gordon was on for as he stayed wide.
Team that ended tonights game should start the next one.
But the way England play should provide Trent with more cover than he got for Liverpool