UFO footage released by US military

[GGizmo]

I believe there is advanced technology in the world. I think its possible that at one time humans were more advanced than they are today. Whether that is because some disaster happened long ago and we haven't caught back up to where we was, or technology that as been invented is being actively held back from us.

I think its possible today to build a UFO. But the problem is its probably using infinite energy from a natural source of fuel, so from a financial point of view it can't be publically acknowledged. We know the Nazi's were attempting to build a UFO as there are documents, and even pictures of it. So its logical that the US after gaining most of the nazi's scientists would also have come across that data and looked to attempt to build it imho.

 

[iamtheoneneo]

lol at the UFO video on the previous page.

how do people fall for that..haha.
it's like people see shaky cam and thing it's real not realising that automatic 3d tracking as been around in commercial software for years now. making crap like this is a literal button click away then just drop in a shape made and animated in after affects.

 

[dowie]

Footage from 2011 over London...

that is so obviously staged it is ridiculous...

 

[Wizzfizz]

As are all UFO sightings. People want to believe just ask Dave and Gill (although she had more common sense)

 

[dowie]

As are all UFO sightings. People want to believe just ask Dave and Gill (although she had more common sense)

not necessarily, some "UFO" sightings simply consist of something unidentified being captured on film, they're not all staged/fakes clips like that youtube clip

 

[Secret_Window]

I would say most of the UFO sightings which involve the demonstration of advanced technology are simply that, but made by ourselves. Drone technologies for example are much more widely used now, but how do we not know that 20-30yrs ago the UFOs people were seeing then were drone prototypes ?

 

[dowie]

yeah some are possibly drones, though others are possibly just experimental manned aircraft, regular aircraft that look weird, weather balloons etc...

 

[DampDog]

I would say most of the UFO sightings which involve the demonstration of advanced technology are simply that, but made by ourselves. Drone technologies for example are much more widely used now, but how do we not know that 20-30yrs ago the UFOs people were seeing then were drone prototypes ?

I'm of the same opinion. I think it was the early 60's when the SR71 first went into service, yet it still holds several performance records today, some 55 odd years later. Do folk think they have just been sitting on their hands for half a century or there might just be a SR72,73,74... that's out there that boast even greater leaps technology. Un-manned aircraft would not be hobbled by the constraints of needing a pilot at the controls. Where 8-9G is about the limit for a pilot, I would imagine with todays materials 30,40,50G may be possible. Not forgetting all the UFO tech they gathered up at Roswell...

 

[Secret_Window]

I'm of the same opinion. I think it was the early 60's when the SR71 first went into service, yet it still holds several performance records today, some 55 odd years later. Do folk think they have just been sitting on their hands for half a century or there might just be a SR72,73,74... that's out there that boast even greater leaps technology. Un-manned aircraft would not be hobbled by the constraints of needing a pilot at the controls. Where 8-9G is about the limit for a pilot, I would imagine with todays materials 30,40,50G may be possible. Not forgetting all the UFO tech they gathered up at Roswell...

An interesting bit of information regarding Roswell, if you haven't heard it already.

Apparently some years back a scientist who was involved in the Roswell incident revealed that the US government developed a top secret project to listen to nuclear bomb testing from the Soviets. It involved sending up a large balloon with a payload that had a special microphone that could detect nuclear explosions from 3000 miles away. The technology was based on ultrasound.

The code name for the project was incidentally called "flying disc" and unfortunately in testing the balloon got ripped to shreds in the atmosphere and crashed in on Roswell.

Afterwards the Roswell airforce base was then tasked to recover the crashed balloon so that the Soviets did not discover that the US government had the technology to listen for Soviet nuclear bomb testing. But due to the press constantly trying to find out what the crash was, part of what they did manage to uncover was the project name "flying disc". But the name "flying disc" then became "flying saucer" due to the press trying to make headline stories and sell newspapers, and then it just took off into a form of its own, which became completely different from the true version of events. However the US government didn't mind that, because it distracted people from what the top secret balloon was.

 

[Wizzfizz]

not necessarily, some "UFO" sightings simply consist of something unidentified being captured on film, they're not all staged/fakes clips like that youtube clip

Unidentified like... Light(s) in the sky, something home made backed up by fruity people. Yes they are staged mostly. If not, it's basically just something a little fruity like a light reflecting off something, or, someone throwing away their maccy gherkins into the sky.

 

[dowie]

Yes, but let' not talk aliens or the likes. Maybe some people need to go to Specsavers.

Yeah for sure, while there might well be some other life forms out there many lightyears away I suspect that if any advanced enough to visit us did so we'd all know about it pretty quickly!

 

[DampDog]

Yeah for sure, while there might well be some other life forms out there many lightyears away I suspect that if any advanced enough to visit us did so we'd all know about it pretty quickly!

Plus if these "Aliens!" are visiting us and don't want to be seen. Why come at night and light your mothership up like a Xmas tree? Have they not heard of "stealth?"

While I really like the idea that we are not alone in the cosmos, I think it's highly unlikely that we have ever been visited. Though I would like to be proven wrong. I wouldn't take much convincing that Donald Trump is not of this earth...

 

[agnes]

This footage is very old... Nothing ever comes from it each time it's 'released'. And nothing ever will.

If aliens landed in Hyde Park, people would still call bs on it.

 

[Tefal]

I believe there is advanced technology in the world. I think its possible that at one time humans were more advanced than they are today. Whether that is because some disaster happened long ago and we haven't caught back up to where we was, or technology that as been invented is being actively held back from us.

I think its possible today to build a UFO. But the problem is its probably using infinite energy from a natural source of fuel, so from a financial point of view it can't be publically acknowledged. We know the Nazi's were attempting to build a UFO as there are documents, and even pictures of it. So its logical that the US after gaining most of the nazi's scientists would also have come across that data and looked to attempt to build it imho.

What do you mean by ufo?

Because you can't build a ufo yourself as you'd know what it is.

Do you mean a single stage to orbit reusable craft or do you just mean round like a flying saucer as a few countries and civilians have tried that but it doesn't really work aerodynamical

 

[Tefal]

One thing I do find funny about this is cts are usualy

"The government are liars they manipulate everything we see so make us fight amongst ourselves its all propaganda!!"


"Omg look what at this film the government released, it totally proves ufos are real like I've been saying for years, how can you disagree with this proof? It comes from the government!!!!".


The other more amusing option is like lots of government stuff context has been lost and stuff simply forgotten about.

All these "logs" of up sightings from carrier groups etc, what if it was simply a drill/excercise with a script for the pilots to report back for them to start working on procedures for such an event. It's all recorded and over the decades people retire move and it gets forgotten about as things move on, 70 odd years later when it's declassified p3ople read it as a real event and not simply a training excersise

 

[GGizmo]

What do you mean by ufo?

I mean a saucer shaped craft. I think magnetic energy could be used to power a craft with the right advancements.

There used to be speculation about the stealth technology that appeared with the introduction of the stealth fighter, that could become invisible on radar, was gained from a crashed UFO. I'm not saying I believe that story. But it sure means that any questions of how stealth technology actually came about won't be asked. It's a good conversation stopper, or topic changer.

One thing I do find funny about this is cts are usualy

"The government are liars they manipulate everything we see so make us fight amongst ourselves its all propaganda!!"

"Omg look what at this film the government released, it totally proves ufos are real like I've been saying for years, how can you disagree with this proof? It comes from the government!!!!".

I see what you're saying. But unless we're actually out in the field ourselves then we have to have trust in someones opinion, or I should say, balance others opinions out to come to our current view of a subject.

I think the reason people have a distrust of the government is because they have been shown to lie about things all the time. The main problem with politics is very few good people get involved. It's mostly people who have an ulterior motive who end up becoming politicians and eventually government ministers.

Here is a question for you. When watching programmes like Ancient Aliens, when they show old tribes that have died off and we see carvings and picture symbols on walls of ufo-like images. These similar images are in different parts of the world by different tribes that by our history shouldn't have even known each other existed. Also in the biblical texts there are mention of what we would call ufo's and alien-like people, giants etc. The Koran has whole chapters of how Muslims should greet people from other worlds etc. It is obvious to me that something happened back then that multiple people saw, who didn't know each other, and wrote it down in the only way they could, either by symbols on walls, or with writing religious text. I'm interested to know what your opinion is on that?

 

[Tefal]

I mean a saucer shaped craft. I think magnetic energy could be used to power a craft with the right advancements.

There used to be speculation about the stealth technology that appeared with the introduction of the stealth fighter, that could become invisible on radar, was gained from a crashed UFO. I'm not saying I believe that story. But it sure means that any questions of how stealth technology actually came about won't be asked. It's a good conversation stopper, or topic changer.

First many countries tried round craft theyre pretty useless from any perspective tbh.

Also "magnetic energy" in the context you're using it there you can simply say magic as that's what you're really saying.


Stealth tech olpgy is pretty well documented and not even hard to figure out how it came about.

We know how radar works so stealth is simply trying to find out how to defeat what you already know and understand.

You know what shapes reflect and make big signatures and what shapes dont the difficulty there is making the awkward shapes into a useable vehicle.

Same when it comes to paints we know what molecules/bonds/featyres absorb specific emr frequencies so it's just developing those materials into something feasible.


There's no reason stealth research needed to come from ufos its nothing particularly revolutionary its just geometry and materials science.

The secrecy need arises when you can't beat it yourself. Like in ww2 both the allies and the Germans knew about chaff to defeat radar on thier bombing raids but for over a year neither side used it put of fear of showing the other side how it worked and it being turned against them because they didn't know the other already knew.

Here is a question for you. When watching programmes like Ancient Aliens, when they show old tribes that have died off and we see carvings and picture symbols on walls of ufo-like images. These similar images are in different parts of the world by different tribes that by our history shouldn't have even known each other existed.

Same reason little kids pictures all look the same.

Untill somone invest perspective drawing and teaches it most "art" is pretty simmilar I mean look at the beaur (spelling?) Tapestry its hardly more advanced than a cave painting

 

[GGizmo]

First many countries tried round craft theyre pretty useless from any perspective tbh.

Also "magnetic energy" in the context you're using it there you can simply say magic as that's what you're really saying.

Everything is magic until we know how its done. Aircraft current designs are based off resistance. By balancing resistance with their shapes thats how they take off and fly. A round aircraft wouldn't be able to take off and move around effectively using conventional methods.

If you put 2 opposite magnets against each other they will try and move away or appear to float. By using controlled direction and with a specially shaped craft and engine I think it would work. But from the technology that is public we're not able to focus the energy enough to be able to make it workable. But I'm thinking along side the advancements in battery technology that is going to come because of the push for electric vehicles, I think we're going to see a change in engine design. If we had a stealth electric engine aircraft nobody would hear it coming even with todays technology.

Stealth tech olpgy is pretty well documented and not even hard to figure out how it came about.

I'm not sure that its easy to figure out as there are only a couple of stealth based aircraft active in the world and its been out for around 20 years.

We know how radar works so stealth is simply trying to find out how to defeat what you already know and understand.

Radar has been around for over 90 years and only in the last 20 years has anyone built aircraft that can defeat it.

There's no reason stealth research needed to come from ufos its nothing particularly revolutionary its just geometry and materials science.

I agree there is no reason it has to come from UFO's. All the materials we needed were on earth. But it took from the 1930's Radar to the 1990's for a stealth fighter to be actively tested in combat during the gulf war.

The secrecy need arises when you can't beat it yourself. Like in ww2 both the allies and the Germans knew about chaff to defeat radar on thier bombing raids but for over a year neither side used it put of fear of showing the other side how it worked and it being turned against them because they didn't know the other already knew.

Interestingly I think during WW2 the governments were probably telling the most truth they ever did to the people. Much more than peace times imho.

 

[Angilion]

I believe there is advanced technology in the world.

Why?

I think its possible that at one time humans were more advanced than they are today.

Possible, maybe, but there's no reason to think it happened and reasons to think it didn't happen.

If there was a human civilisation with technology more advanced than today's technology, why is there absolutely no sign that it ever existed?

How did this hypothetical high-technology civilisation completely skip the use of metal? The relative abundance of relatively easily obtained metal ore in the bronze and iron ages makes it clear that it hadn't been used before.

The only way it could work would be with a very small and very isolated civilisation on an island that had all the necessary resources in adequate quantities and which no longer exists. Which is possible, but there's no reason to believe it.

Whether that is because some disaster happened long ago and we haven't caught back up to where we was, or technology that as been invented is being actively held back from us.

If technology was being actively held back from us (how? by whom?), then technology wouldn't have been more advanced in the past. For that to happen, the technology would have to have been in use in the past, then completely suppressed and all knowledge of its existence successfully erased somehow.

I think its possible today to build a UFO.

It's easy to build a flying object that someone else can't identify. If I build a drone with a bright light on it, fly it around and someone sees it who doesn't identify it as a drone (because the bright light obscures the drone), then that drone is a UFO to that person.

But the problem is its probably using infinite energy from a natural source of fuel, so from a financial point of view it can't be publically acknowledged.

Even if the magic you claim probably exists actually did exist, it still wouldn't make any sense to suppress it. Many countries are dependent for energy on other countries and that's something any sane government would avoid if they could do so easily. There is something else that would make suppression of this magic an appealing idea - if it could be easily weaponised. You should have gone with that as a reason.

But more importantly, where is your evidence for this magic energy source?

We know the Nazi's were attempting to build a UFO as there are documents, and even pictures of it. So its logical that the US after gaining most of the nazi's scientists would also have come across that data and looked to attempt to build it imho.

Every military is always trying to build a UFO - a flying object that other people can't identify has obvious military uses. Every experimental aeroplane was a UFO for a while, until it was identified.

If by "UFO" you mean "flying saucer" (as I think you do), well, a number of countries have tried to build flying saucers...and stopped doing so because they're crap. It's a bad shape for an atmospheric craft. It might be useful in a spaceship designed to remain in space (you could, for example, easily rotate it to create pseudogravity), but it makes no sense for an atmospheric craft or even for a spaceship designed to also work well as an atmospheric craft.

 

[Angilion]

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Untill somone invest perspective drawing and teaches it most "art" is pretty simmilar I mean look at the beaur (spelling?) Tapestry its hardly more advanced than a cave painting

Bayeux Tapestry. Which isn't a tapestry and wasn't made in Bayeux.