That might be your opinion, does not make it a fact, Nintendo are releasing games that would not be out of place on your beloved PS3, in fact Sony would kill to have Mario on their console.
Uh-oh. PS3 'Orange Box' fails.
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That might be your opinion, does not make it a fact, Nintendo are releasing games that would not be out of place on your beloved PS3, in fact Sony would kill to have Mario on their console.
Well, considering I know people in the industry, and they know more people in the industry, some of which work at Rockstar then I am confident in the knowledge that it IS the PS3 version holding up the release of GTA4, or more precisely, the inability to stream such large city data from the Blu-Ray quick enough without a lot of tweaking, which they are working on around the clock now.I love this."Held up by PS3 development". What a joke. It's like people expect that a games company should only have to build one version of a game and that version should work perfectly for every platform out there..
Of course, you can keep your head in the sand. No skin off my nose.
Makes no sense, why would they suddenly decide that Sony will not make them money, considering the money these companies have made in the past from PS2, you are saying they now want Sony to fail and think they can make more money with MS? I imagine most of these companies love the fact their is competition, more formats to release their game on, and as we can see here most PS3 owners are quite happy to accept some flaws compared to 360 games.
Soldato
I wonder if he speaks to himself in the 3rd person?
Gabe Newell would like to purchase the eggs of numbing inevitability!
**Sorry stolen Bill Bailey 3rd person quote, but as I'm seeing him tonight I'm rather excited
Soldato
Not surprised by this news at all I have to say. This is what you get when you give a port to a company (EA) that cannot get to grips with the system. Shame really.
Sorry, how many ps3/xbox games are being ported to the wii?
What has that got to do with MS monopolising the console market? Have you seen the sales figures? Porting games to one or the other is not the point, the post I responded to about Nintendo was someone suggesting MS will monopolise and abuse the console gaming market, but Nintendo are there, which you took offence to and dismissed, then when reminded about the games they have you then change tact?
Last official source I have read (not one of these I know someone who knows someone who knows someone) from Rockstar stated along the lines of:
1) Difficulties on PS3 streaming Data fast enough
2) Difficulties on 360 due to the lack of disk capacity and lack of fixed hard drive.
I have not read anything conclusive otherwise officially. Not to discredit what you have stated but it is pure opinion and conjecture.
Have you, out of curiosity?
rp200
Or more precisely, their "one box fits all" approach isn't really paying of in a multi platform environment.
Perhaps I'm being too hasty though. Since you're in the know, tell us about how rockstar approached dev for both consoles and how they planned to make their ps3 dev work? Because obviously, they must have released it wouldn't be a straightforward port right?
I'm going off what I've been told by friends. I don't know anyone in Rockstar, however I have 2 friends who do know people in there. That's what I've been told.
Not at all, I'm saying that although Nintendo does produce console games, the wii is not as much as competitor to the 360 as the ps3 is. the wii and the 360/ps3 are aimed at different markets. So, whilst nintendo is a competitor, they can exist happily as their consumer base is primarily different types of gamers.
Perhaps my statement about the "one console market" was a bit too general. I meant it as in the "next gen" market, as opposed to the wider gaming market.
Soldato
??? I seriously doubt that! Evidence? I mean we've already had the blu-ray speed discussion, 2x blu-ray transfer rate is that of a 20x DVD, a source also stated that blu-ray discs require less rotation in order for more data to be read, which is quite obvious actually! And how do you not know that 360 isnt holding up the release of GTA?? There are 2 sides to the argument. DVD limitations??? And the fact that Rockstar would have to consider that everyone on 360 does not have a harddrive! Without serious evidence, and that SERIOUSLY excludes Pachter quotes, the acutal truth isnt really known.
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But surely your friends would know how the games development is strutured. I am a software engineer and know how the wider plan is structured for any project I am working on,so I would be surprised if they don't.
The point is, I am thinking that Rockstar thought they could develop for one platform and then port it for ps3 and get acceptable results all within the timeframe, but their poor planning is now being blamed on the ps3 because of it's "hardware limitations" or "platform complexities". i.e. copout. They wouldn't be the first though, so I am not surprised.
If this is the case, the delay is not because of the ps3, but because of these companies poor software dev management.
Edit: the same goes for Valve/EA with the orange box.
Cheers, so to be fair it is just hearsay and non official information from a friend of a friend.
As mentioned before I hate posts that are stated here as semi-facts when in actual fact they are just heresay and internet rumours (not you in particular, but as a general rule).
It's always nice to stick to the facts, especially when it is equally plausible that the 360 could be causing the development delays.
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Caporegime
Trouble is, once MS gains the monopoly it wants of the serious consoles, it will then turn its attention to Nintendo. How long before we see a handheld Xbox that competes with the DS? How long before MS starts putting pressure on Nintendo's suppliers to develop games for them instead? How long before Nintendo are reduced to the same status as Sega, a mere games-maker instead of the mighty console manufacturer it once was?
I've told you how I know the 360 isn't holding up development, it's because the PS3 is.
The Xbox360 is at a limitation without a HDD, however the console was based around game playback, so a fast drive and good memory programming is a more than able replacement.
Of course, knowing your posts from the past I would expect nothing less of your posts than some drivel.
Soldato
How was my post drivel?
I simply find it hard to believe that GTAIV was delayed because your mates, brothers, sisters, dog that works at rockstar told you so. Show me some valid evidence, then ill believe you.
