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Stumble Bum said:
You want sympathy and compassion for Russians invading another country and committing the war crimes they are. Who's side are you on :confused:
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Without putting words in his mouth I suspect he’s not a fan of advocating the deaths of pows. Neither am I for that matter.
I’ve zero sympathy for Russian soldiers killed in combat while they’re invading Ukraine. That ran out very quickly. However, there’s a world of difference in that and being happy about the killings of bound pows who had nothing to do with atrocities committed by other ***** in the Russian army.
 
Washout said:
the killings of bound pows who had nothing to do with atrocities committed by other ***** in the Russian army.
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And how do you know this? They all know what is going on, they are there and can see it for their own eyes. This hasn't just been one isolated incident in Bucha, this is happening all over Ukraine.
 
Washout said:
Without putting words in his mouth I suspect he’s not a fan of advocating the deaths of pows. Neither am I for that matter.
I’ve zero sympathy for Russian soldiers killed in combat while they’re invading Ukraine. That ran out very quickly. However, there’s a world of difference in that and being happy about the killings of bound pows who had nothing to do with atrocities committed by other ***** in the Russian army.
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I would treat POW's well because it makes enemy surrender more likely. Not because I care about their feelings or who loves them, but because I woukd rather my enemy surrender than fight me to the death.
 
Twinz said:
I would treat POW's well because it makes enemy surrender more likely. Not because I care about their feelings or who loves them, but because I woukd rather my enemy surrender than fight me to the death.
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Same here. I would treat them with respect and provide comfortable detention. Possibly give them plenty of vodka, monitored calls to family where possible and secure. etc.
potatolord said:
It makes the job harder for Ukraine.

If word gets to Russian soldiers, they will fight to the last bullet. Why surrender if you'll be killed anyway?
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To be fair, you should never surrender or be captured because you have no control over what happens to you (haven't you seen 'The Recruit') ;) People in this thread earlier were saying Ukraine should surrender to stop the killing. Then all you get is rape, torture, and pillaging.
 
*Kremlin: U.S. Arms Supplies to Kyiv ‘Negative’ for Peace Talks — BBG
*Kremlin on Putin’s Presence at G20 Summit: We Will Make a Decision on Whether He Takes Part Based on How the Events Evolve.
*Kremlin: Russia Will Respond to the Latest US Sanctions.
*Kremlin: Putin to Hold Regular Security Council Meeting Thursday — Peskov
https://twitter.com/C_Barraud/status/1511999189080805378
https://tass.ru/politika/14308625

*Ukraine President Zelenskiy: We Should Not Give Any Support to Russian Tankers.
*Ukraine President Zelenskiy: All Russian Banks Must Be Blocked From International Finance System.

*Exxaro: We Have Received Several Requests From European Countries Wanting to Sign Supply Contracts After Sanctions on Russian Coal.
*Exxaro: We Have the Right Quality of Coal for the European Market, but Current Production Is Already Allocated to Existing Customers.
 
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Just seen the dug out trenches around Chernobyl from drone footage, what an extremely unpleasant way to go... I wonder if there's some strategic value in actively irradiating borders to protect them?
 
*Russian PM Mishustin: West Has Robbed Our Country by Freezing Our Assets.
*Russian PM Mishustin, Addressing Foreign Companies: Russia Is Still Open for Dialogue.
*Russian PM Mishustin: Our Financial System Has Withstood the Sanctions, the Rouble and Stock Market Are Stabilising.

*Russian Railways to Restrict Rail Shipments Towards Poland From April 10 — IFAX
'The company did not provide a reason for its decision.'

*India External Affairs Minister: World Order Is Changing and We Have to Reduce Our Dependence on the External World

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*EU’s Full Ban on Russian Coal to Be Pushed Back by One Month to Mid-August — Source — RTRS
'European Union envoys are set to approve on Thursday a ban on Russian coal that would take full effect from mid-August, a month later than initially proposed, an EU source told Reuters, following pressure from Germany to delay the measure.'
https://www.reuters.com/business/en...-be-pushed-back-mid-august-source-2022-04-07/
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*EU Sanctions Debate Hits Snags on Coal Ban Phase-In and Exemptions.
*EU Diplomats Hope to Reach an Agreement on Sanctions on Thursday.

*Japan PM Kishida: Coordinating With G7 on Further Sanctions Against Russia, to Unveil Steps From Friday Onward ~1hr ago
 
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englishpremier said:
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To be fair, you should never surrender or be captured because you have no control over what happens to you (haven't you seen 'The Recruit') ;) People in this thread earlier were saying Ukraine should surrender to stop the killing. Then all you get is rape, torture, and pillaging.
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It's a fair point, but the Western way of war has focused on ensuring rights of POWs precisely to minimise the tendency of surrounded forces to fight to the last bullet.
 
*G7 Foreign Ministers: We Condemn in the Strongest Terms the Atrocities Committed by the Russian Armed Forces in Bucha and a Number of Other Ukrainian Towns - UK-Issued Joint Statement
*G7 Foreign Ministers: Those Responsible for These Heinous Acts and Atrocities Will Be Held Accountable and Prosecuted
*G7 Foreign Ministers: Warn Against Any Threat or Use of Chemical, Biological or Nuclear Weapons
*G7 Foreign Ministers Express Concern About Other Countries and Actors That Have Amplified Russia’s Disinformation Campaign
*G7 Foreign Ministers Express Our Gravest Concern With Russia Forcefully Seizing Control of Nuclear Facilities
*G7 Foreign Ministers Say It Is a Blatant Lie That Western Sanctions Have Caused Rise in Global Food Prices
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...-war-of-aggression-against-ukraine-april-2022

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*Russian PM Mishustin: West Has Robbed Our Country by Freezing Our Assets.
*Russian PM Mishustin, Addressing Foreign Companies: Russia Is Still Open for Dialogue.
*Russian PM Mishustin: Our Financial System Has Withstood the Sanctions, the Rouble and Stock Market Are Stabilising.
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*Russian PM Mishustin: Current Situation Is the Most Difficult in Three Decades
*Russian PM Mishustin: Attempts to Isolate Russia From Global Economy Will Fail
*Russian PM Mishustin: Foreign Companies Leaving Russia Will Make Space for Other Businesses

*Russia’s 150,000 BPD TAIF Refinery Shuts Operations Amid Product Overstocking — Sources

*UK PM Boris Johnson: People Looking at What Has Been Happening in Ukraine Can See It Is a Systematic Slaughter
 
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Twinz said:
I would treat POW's well because it makes enemy surrender more likely. Not because I care about their feelings or who loves them, but because I woukd rather my enemy surrender than fight me to the death.
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englishpremier said:
Same here. I would treat them with respect and provide comfortable detention. Possibly give them plenty of vodka, monitored calls to family where possible and secure. etc.
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I would say these people aren't POW's because there is no war. It's an illegal invasion. Ukraine isn't at war with Russia.

These soldiers have either murdered, raped, tortured innocent civilians or they have stood around and gone along with it. You both have a lot more self restraint than me.
 
As the Czech Republic given tanks to Ukraine?

I saw a couple of reports yesterday. But it doesn't seem to be widely covered in the media, so I'm wondering if it happened or not.
 
"Russians = bad so it's OK to murder them" - said by people in here who are then complaining about the Russians saying "Ukrainians = bad so it's OK to murder them" and yet somehow don't understand that people saying either statement are pyschopaths.

Happily a good portion of the replies to these idiots are putting them straight, which is refreshing to see.
 
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