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the old mobile crematorium pics was from 2013 , then brought back up again at the start of the war for apparently burning Russian soldiers remains.

wouldn't they just use acid baths or bury the bodies in a crater then drive tanks or whatever all over it to try and hide the disturbed ground
 
Screeeech said:
Has anybody actually seen any of these "mobile crematoriums"? It all just sounds like a bit of a **** and bull story to be honest.

(unless anybody has any actual proof)
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There were photographs of these mobile crematoriums floating about just after the first day of the invasion so the are about. The assumption was these crematorium were going to be used to cremate the bodies of dead Russian solders so they didn't have to pay a pension to the family of the person who died. I don't think anyone thought they were going to be used to cover for war crimes.
 
arknor said:
the old mobile crematorium pics was from 2013 , then brought back up again at the start of the war for apparently burning Russian soldiers remains.

wouldn't they just use acid baths or bury the bodies in a crater then drive tanks or whatever all over it to try and hide the disturbed ground
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Acid requires specific chemicals and training to use, you also end up with a lot of waste (the mixture will thicken and weaken as you use it), a mobile crematorium basically needs fuel and cleaning out with a brush. Essentially a mobile crematorium is far easier to operate and maintain especially if your troops are not well trained.
However the idea that the mobile units are good for disposing of large numbers of bodies is rather silly, as they're slow.

As distasteful as it is, you're better off burning them in open pits and then possibly doing something with the remains if you want to hide your crimes, but that sort of heat source will almost certain attract attention from satellites these days, as IIRC NASA has a "fire early warning system" for detecting wild fires and people are already using data/imaging from it to find the remains of Russian tanks, combine that with commercial* (let alone military level) optical imaging from satellites and you would likely be able to find what was going on and know exactly where to look for the remains (as is happening with individual bodies in the streets, and mass graves).


*IIRC there are imaging satellites that provide subscription services to farmers to let them monitor their herds and crops for a small fee, as well as the likes of google earth and various other obvious ones.
 
*Ukraine’s President Zelenskiy: 167 Children Have Died in Recent Days From Russian Aggression.
*Ukraine’s President Zelenskiy: Russian Leadership Perceives Any Goodwill Toward It by Other Countries As a Weakness.
*Ukraine’s President Zelenskiy: All Cypriot Ports Must Be Closed to Russian Vessels.
*Ukraine’s President Zelenskiy: So-Called Golden Passports Offered by Cyprus Should End.
*Ukraine’s President Zelenskiy: Island Should Not Extend Dual-Citizenship Priveleges to Russians.
*Ukraine’s President Zelenskiy: Russian Leadership Is Not Serious About Peace Talks

*Brent Oil Falls Below $100 for First Time Since March 17
*Renault, Nissan to Discuss Renault Split Plan, Russia Issues

*France Has Warned China to Avoid Repeating Russian Propaganda — Elysee.

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*Top U.S. General: Ukraine Faces Significant Battle Ahead in Southeast, Open Question How Conflict With Russia Ends
*Top U.S. General: Ukraine Is Effectively Using Landmines in Conflict With Russia.
*U.S. Is Providing 60,000 Anti-Armor Weapons to Ukraine — Milley
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*Top U.S. General: U.S. and Allies Have Sent Ukraine 25,000 Anti-Aircraft Systems Like Stinger Missiles
 
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0007 said:
*US Senate Has Enough Votes to Ban Oil Imports From Russia.
*US Senate Vote to Ban Energy Products From Russia Is Ongoing.
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*U.S. Senate Votes to Ban Russian Energy Imports Over Invasion.
*U.S. Senate Action Sends Russian Oil Import Ban Back to House.
 
Russia suspended from the UN Human Rights Council
In Favour 93
Against 24
Abstain 58

Abstentions don't count towards the 2/3rd needed.
 
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0007 said:
*UN Begins Debate on Expelling Russia From Human Rights Council

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*U.N. General Assembly Suspends Russia From Human Rights Council — 93 Yes Votes, 24 No Votes, 58 Abstentions ~Oops I'm late
*Ukraine Foreign Minister: Grateful to UN Member States for Suspending Russia From Human Rights Council

*US Secretary of State Blinken Speaks.
*U.S. Secretary of State Blinken: We Are Sustaining and Building up Pressure on Russia.
*U.S. Secretary of State Blinken: We Will Not Let Anything Stand In the Way of Sending Arms to Ukraine.
*U.S. Secretary of State Blinken: We Are Looking at What New Arms We Can Send Ukraine.
*U.S. Secretary of State Blinken: I Am Hearing From Europe a Commitment to End Dependence on Russian Energy.

*Russia Imposes Entry Ban on Australian Leaders.
'Russia's Foreign Ministry said on Thursday it had imposed entry bans on 228 Australian government members and lawmakers, including Prime Minister Scott Morrison, in response to sanctions from Canberra.'
*Kremlin Spokesman: We Have Had Significant Losses of Troops.
 
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Werewolf said:
that sort of heat source will almost certain attract attention from satellites these days
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Just guessing (it's what the internet's for, after all) but maybe a mobile crematorium would be far less visible to such tech. Insulation for making it efficient could make it look a lot less suspicious. As for the time required for relatively large scale cremation (just the most obviously maltreated corpses?) at this point, having seen some of the horrific treatment of the living, I've no difficulty imagining an industrial shredder feeding a furnace. I don't want to imagine too hard, but that might speed things up a bit.
 
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*The US Senate Votes to Revoke Normal Trade Status With Russia.
*US Senate Passes Bill Stripping Russia of Favored Trade Status — WSJ.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/senate-set-to-pass-bills-to-strip-russia-of-favored-trade-status-ban-oil-imports-11649338449
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*US House Has Enough Votes to Revoke Normal Trade Status With Russia, Vote Ongoing.

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*U.N. General Assembly Suspends Russia From Human Rights Council — 93 Yes Votes, 24 No Votes, 58 Abstentions
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*Russia: Decision to Suspend It From Human Rights Council Is Illegal and Politically Motivated — RIA Cites Russian Official
 
Mr Joshua said:
Strange reply coming from someone who has taken the coin of the realm to potentially kill someone because they've been paid and told to do so.
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Not really, I have zero issue with Russians being killed in combat, thats the risk anyone in the military takes. However the killing POW's is wrong and the perpetrators should be caught & punished irrespective of what side they're on.

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When you look at who voted which way (not counting the abstentions) that genuinely looks like the two opposing sides for WW3 being picked and it doesn't look good for the Red team.
 
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*IEA Details the UK to Release 4.41 Mln Barrels out of 120 Mln Barrels Release Plan.
*IEA: Germany Is to Release 6.48 Mln Barrels to the 120 Mln Barrels Release Plan.
*IEA: France to Contribute 6.05 Mln Barrels to 120 Mln Barrels Release Plan.
*IEA: Approximately 240 Million Barrels of Emergency Oil Stocks Will Be Made Accessible to the Global Market During the Next Six Months.
*IEA: In IEA Member Countries, Emergency Oil Stocks Are Either Public (Government-Owned or Held by Specialised Agencies) or Held by Industry Under a Government Obligation.

*The United States House Has Cleared the a Trade Bill Concerning Russia for President Biden’s Signature.
*U.S Ends Normal Trade Ties With Russia Over Ukraine Invasion
*U.S. House Clears Russia Oil Import Ban for Biden’s Signature

*G7 Countries Agree New Economic Sanctions Against Russia, Says Statement — AFP

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*Kremlin Spokesman: We Have Had Significant Losses of Troops.
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*Kremlin Spokesman: We Are Seeing Large Numbers of Casualties Among Troops in Ukraine, It’s a Tragedy — IFX
 
Andrew_McP said:
Just guessing (it's what the internet's for, after all) but maybe a mobile crematorium would be far less visible to such tech. Insulation for making it efficient could make it look a lot less suspicious. As for the time required for relatively large scale cremation (just the most obviously maltreated corpses?) at this point, having seen some of the horrific treatment of the living, I've no difficulty imagining an industrial shredder feeding a furnace. I don't want to imagine too hard, but that might speed things up a bit.
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A big shredder would do the trick, if you had a large watercourse near. Much quicker, too.
 
englishpremier said:
From what I saw on the maps of the potential oil and gas fields, they were all in Ukrainian controlled territory, not rebel held areas. Not sure how close Russia has got to them other than the fields in the Sea of Azov.
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Yuzivska gas field is right under where all the front lines are - overlaid it looks exactly like it is Russia's main aim for this.
 
*US Deputy Treasury Sec. Adeyemo: The United States’ Investment Restriction in Russia Will Deny Russia of Funds Needed to Sustain Its Economy, Ukraine Invasion.
*US Deputy Treasury Sec. Adeyemo: The Investment Ban Prohibits Americans From Participating in the Equity or Debt of Russian Firms, As Well As Investment Funds.
*US Deputy Treasury Sec. Adeyemo: US Corporations Are Deciding to Go Beyond US Sanctions and Leave Russia.
*US Deputy Treasury Sec. Adeyemo: The Impact of Sanctions and Export Controls on Russian Military Supplies Will Be Immediate.
*US Deputy Treasury Sec. Adeyemo: European Allies Are Committed to Reducing Their Reliance on Russian Energy, but That This Will Take Time.
*US Deputy Treasury Sec. Adeyemo: Russia Must Convert Hard Cash From Energy Exports Into Roubles, Depriving the Ukrainian Military Effort of Funds.
*US Deputy Treasury Sec. Adeyemo: The United States Is Committed to Maintaining Sanctions on Components Used in the Manufacture of Russian Tanks, Missiles, and Aircraft.
*US Deputy Treasury Sec. Adeyemo Remains Hopeful That China Will Send a Direct Message to Russia to Cease the Invasion of Ukraine.
*US Deputy Treasury Sec. Adeyemo: The United States Has Made It Clear That Any Government, Company, or Individual Assisting Russia in Evading Sanctions Will Be Held Accountable.
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*White House: We Will Continue to Take Every Possible Action to Increase Energy Supply in the Near Term.
*India Is Examining Ways to Assist IEA Members’ Oil Release.
https://www.reuters.com/business/en...s-support-iea-members-oil-release-2022-04-07/

*Russia Will Take Action in Response to the Transfer of Soviet or Russian Weapons to Ukraine Without the Consent of the Russian Federation.
 
The Doghouse Karl, they stole the ******* doghouse.
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Screeeech said:
Has anybody actually seen any of these "mobile crematoriums"? It all just sounds like a bit of a **** and bull story to be honest.

(unless anybody has any actual proof)
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Dunno about proof - about two weeks before this kicked off there was images of a convoy of dozens of vehicles which superficially resembled mobile crematoriums - but then a couple of weeks after it kicked off there was reports of 100-1000s of bodies arriving by train to hospitals in Belarus, Crimea, etc.
 
Russia's official mission to the UN states that it has preemptively terminated its position on the UN Human Rights Council. This follows the vote earlier today whereby Russia was expelled from the UNHRC.
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You cant fire me!....I quit!!!
 
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