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The UK needs some national service to get some backbone back. Instead of crying wolf due to mental health which every man and his dog has these days. It doesn't have to be military either. Ambulance service get drivers etc etc.
 
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SPG said:
The UK needs some national service to get some backbone back. Instead of crying wolf due to mental health which every man and his dog has these days. It doesn't have to be military either. Ambulance service get drivers etc etc.
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Get all the hoodies, drop outs etc etc enlisted i say.
 
National Service has to be an equal burden on everyone or it will lack dignity and be accordingly associated with people least able to dodge it.

South Korea is quite merciless with their national service demands on their men up to banning them from ever coming back if they hide in another country. There's currently a political debate about allowing valuable entertainers to dodge service on grounds of other contribution to society but it's not moving very fast due to fears of it being a slippery slope if they start allowing exemptions.

Mind you, they do have a huge exemption in place already. Just have to be female.
 
Hotwired said:
National Service has to be an equal burden on everyone or it will lack dignity and be accordingly associated with people least able to dodge it.

South Korea is quite merciless with their national service demands on their men up to banning them from ever coming back if they hide in another country. There's currently a political debate about allowing valuable entertainers to dodge service on grounds of other contribution to society but it's not moving very fast due to fears of it being a slippery slope if they start allowing exemptions.

Mind you, they do have a huge exemption in place already. Just have to be female.
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Define "female". I'll get my coat... ;)
 
Sounds like script from a lowkey action movie.......

GPS receivers have been found taped to the dashboards of Russian jets downed in Ukraine, according to a report from Express. The Express received the information from Ben Wallace, United Kingdom defense secretary, who mentioned it in a speech at the National Army Museum.

The GPS receivers were found taped to the dashboards of Russian SU-34s because of “the poor quality of their own systems,” he said. It is unclear whether he was referring to the Russian GLONASS satellite navigation system or the navigation systems aboard the SU-34 jets, but most likely the latter. Lack of maintenance and modernization of Russian military equipment has been obvious since the beginning of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
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areksnumbr1sxylady said:
As you know this is a pretty popular topic right now, I just wanted to share my thoughts which are not exactly main-stream at the moment, and see what you think... Obviously I am ready to get poo thrown at me :D as per GD rule.

At first I was very supportive of protesters, it seemed as right thing... People trying to get rid of a Soviet style dictator who is actually just a puppet to Russia, in hopes of achieving better living conditions.

But the more I started reading into it, more I became disappointed.... You could say that the reason why this all started is because Yanukovich turned down the EU association deal... At the time I thought this is because his warlords in Russia told him that he cant.

But as I took closer look at the EU deal and what effects it would have on Ukraine, in few short words... It would completely destroy Ukraine`s industry... All their factories are non EU compliant, money needed to modernize such factories are just at silly numbers....

Especially when manufacturers such as Antonov-aircrafts keep afloat only because Russia orders them.... With EU association, Russia will no longer buy those airplanes due to increased price and also for political reasons.

So you might say well Antonov will be given a loan to modernize themselves and all will be dandy, but in reality there is no way that they will ever be able to compete with Airbus in France, it is just impossible. They simply will not be able to pay the loan back which they took out for modernization.



ild new nuclear stations which are EU compliant or make them all green with turbines and solar

So what we did, is shut down a working Nuclear station which employed thousands of local people and produced electricity at pennies due to the fact that it was left for FREE by Soviets... And now forcing them to build new one for 5 billion Euros, with no locals working there and since they cant afford such expense they will now take out massive loans and pay huge % on them.

Moreover, the new nuclear station will not even be competitive since the price per megawatt has gone up

This is pretty much the same scenario Ukraine will see from EU, across all of their industries.




I line, they only e and use the "they now have freeedom" expression :D
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one your post is very long I gave up reading, two the money comes from the EU.
 
IGBT said:
But isn’t this more like the huskies have removed/retreat from there to bring the troops to dombass?
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No it means the Ukranians fought them and beat them all the way back to their border.

They didn't tactically retreat, their tactics to encircle the Ukrainians failed, they lost again.
 
bris said:
No it means the Ukranians fought them and beat them all the way back to their border.

They didn't tactically retreat, their tactics to encircle the Ukrainians failed, they lost again.
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I winder if Ukraine should just carry on and start annexing Russian territory, would stop the Russians concentrating their forces inthe Dombass.
 
Minstadave said:
I winder if Ukraine should just carry on and start annexing Russian territory, would stop the Russians concentrating their forces inthe Dombass.
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As tempting as that must be for Ukraine to get some payback, they need to play the better role and stop at the border, show they are the better nation/people and don't invade neighbouring countries, though they would have very good reason to do so, just stop at the border and fortify defences.

With Finland and Sweden looking to join NATO potentially soon, Russia does not need any excuses for further aggression upon Ukraine or other countries.

Europe/USA needs to work on giving Putin an exit strategy rather than trying to antagonise things more otherwise there really will become the risk of the war spreading or even WW3, the best solution is to look for an exit option that appeases Russia and then Europe/USA come to an agreement with Russia to try and keep them happy and then pile money into Ukraine to rebuild and if Russia were smart they were apologise and also assist with rebuilt effort on the basis some Russian sanctions are lifted as the Russian people should also not be punished as I am sure the general population would rather things returned to as they were, the longer it goes on for the more isolated Russia will become.
 
Minstadave said:
I winder if Ukraine should just carry on and start annexing Russian territory, would stop the Russians concentrating their forces inthe Dombass.
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Performing procession strikes is one thing but taking territory and subjugating the local population would mean Ukraine loses the moral high ground and could mean less support from neutral countries.
 
Russia has officially seized the Moscow production facility and other assets of car maker Renault. All Renaults's Russian assets have been transferred to Moscow local government ownership and control

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Grim5 said:
Russia has officially seized the Moscow production facility and other assets of car maker Renault. All Renaults's Russian assets have been transferred to Moscow local government ownership and control

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Hardly a seized, it was an agreement by both parties for the best going forward and Renault have the option of buying back within a six year timeframe.
 
Shamikebab said:
The question is, what happens if Ukraine push them out but the bombardments continue from outside their country?
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Ukrain now has the best arty in the world, they too can inflick mass damage inside Russia so when Russia leaves it's because the "Special operation" is over.
 
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