Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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*German Defence Ministry: Germany Delivers Air Defence Systems to Ukraine to Protect Ukrainian Civilians
*German Defence Ministry: The First of 4 Iris-T SLM Systems Will Be Delivered to Ukraine Within Days
*German Defence Ministry Spokesperson: Germany Expects to Deliver First Air Defence System to Ukraine Very Soon, the Others to Be Delivered Next Year
 
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Yeah but most of the time you post anything "negative" you just get called a bot, idiot,coward etc. Its sooo boring to read, so predictable. it really is.

The thread is overly aggressive towards posters who are simply discussing some points of disagreement, but those ignorantly peddling Kremlin talking points get the response they deserve.
 
Its not a case of armchair generals. Its a case of an aggressor on the borders of the eastern EU and NATA invading a sovereign nation and attempting to make it part of Russia. So controlling the HUGE food supply that country generates and future energy supplies. You think its bad now Putin holding Europe to ransom over energy? Just wait until he can also do it with food as well. You either take a stand now or live under Russia's boot, that is the choice.
Putin isn't going to live much longer one way or another. This whole war is becoming comical. Russia proven to be a toothless tired old dog with nothing but a bark.
This **** could drag on for months/years. I just want a negotiated peace. I really want Putin dead too tbh and a modern non soviet in charge.
/rainbow
 
Putin isn't going to live much longer one way or another. This whole war is becoming comical. Russia proven to be a toothless tired old dog with nothing but a bark.
This **** could drag on for months/years. I just want a negotiated peace. I really want Putin dead too tbh and a modern non soviet in charge.
/rainbow
I don’t think civilians being murderer and tortured is particularly comical.

Though I do agree with your armchair general point, I laugh every time I see our one resident expert on everything add something. Is there nothing he doesn’t know everything about?… (censuring myself here as no doubt it’ll be conceived as a personal attack).
 
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The thread is overly aggressive towards posters who are simply discussing some points of disagreement, but those ignorantly peddling Kremlin talking points get the response they deserve.
What the hell is a Kremlin talking point and can you show me examples of that lol. Stuff like this is bonkers.
Do you actively believe there is "people" supporting Russia here just because they want peace or...

well i guess ill see if you can find to time to show me.

im sorry i just dabble in this thread when i get bored.
 
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Putin isn't going to live much longer one way or another. This whole war is becoming comical. Russia proven to be a toothless tired old dog with nothing but a bark.
This **** could drag on for months/years. I just want a negotiated peace. I really want Putin dead too tbh and a modern non soviet in charge.
/rainbow
The Ukrainians don't see this war as in any way 'comical', they are fighting for their very existence against a criminal regime bent on taking their land and their freedom.
 
I don’t think civilians being murderer and tortured is particularly comical.

Though I do agree with your armchair general point, I laugh every time I see our one resident expert on everything add something. Is there nothing he doesn’t know everything about?… (censuring myself here as no doubt it’ll be conceived as a personal attack).

The second i wrote comical i knew it was a bad choice but i guess i meant the "comical" strength of the Russian military.
I know its tragic everyday. We Have more Ukrainian refugees in our town, just normal men women and kids....
Living in the UK there is almost zero fear and contemplation of becoming a refugee.
Ive had a lot of thoughts about it here now.
Im up on the Finnish border and its a military strategic location, home to some of Northern Sweden's regiments.
If the **** really really hits the fan then im instantly dead or looking for tickets west...
THe ground war seems incredibly unlikely now though.
 
im sorry i just dabble in this thread when i get bored.

Well I suspect this is the root of your problem.
You pop in and out of the thread, without bothering to go back and read the repeated attempts by certain "Putin Apologists" in here to justify what is happening in Ukraine.
Then you turn up and make some half-baked comment about "do you believe there is people who support Putin for peace?" - Well, if you had bothered to read more of the thread, you would have repeatedly seen posts from certain individuals making exactly those kind of claims.
 
We are heading for a complete disaster......And for what? two parts of Eastern Ukraine who mostly identify as Russia peed off because their elected government in 2014 was couped.
You should watch from 3:00 to 3:43 and 10:13 to 11:15 although the whole video might be a bit of an eye opener for you:


Getting rid of a corrupted president who was killing his own people in a non violent way is not a coup.
 
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What the hell is a Kremlin talking point and can you show me examples of that lol. Stuff like this is bonkers.

Examples of Kremlin talking points would be things like claiming that the legitimate government of Ukraine was overthrown in a coup in 2014 (bonus points for claiming it was US-backed) rather than the reality that the government was removed through democratic protest leading to another election, or claiming that the division between people who voted pro-Russian or pro-EU parties in the election shows the regions of Ukraine that would back being part of Russia rather than the parts of Ukraine who want more Russian leaning trade and foreign policy, or claiming that Crimea really wanted to be part of Russia rather than being forced into a sham referendum, or claiming that Russia's occupation of parts of the Donbass and Luhansk regions since 2014 represent real separatist movements rather than being Russia-led and supported.

Do you actively believe there is "people" supporting Russia here just because they want peace or...

I think most people who parrot Kremlin talking points are doing so because they're ignorant rather than because they actively support Russia - although I think a decent number are going full "two sides" on this - they're useful idiots rather than Russian agents. I doubt OCUK is large enough to be worthing sending paid misinformation agents and bots to; those are mostly active on Twitter and Facebook, etc.
 
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*German Defence Ministry: Germany Delivers Air Defence Systems to Ukraine to Protect Ukrainian Civilians
*German Defence Ministry: The First of 4 Iris-T SLM Systems Will Be Delivered to Ukraine Within Days
*German Defence Ministry Spokesperson: Germany Expects to Deliver First Air Defence System to Ukraine Very Soon, the Others to Be Delivered Next Year

Clearly I need to read the thread more
 
Well I suspect this is the root of your problem.
You pop in and out of the thread, without bothering to go back and read the repeated attempts by certain "Putin Apologists" in here to justify what is happening in Ukraine.
Then you turn up and make some half-baked comment about "do you believe there is people who support Putin for peace?" - Well, if you had bothered to read more of the thread, you would have repeatedly seen posts from certain individuals making exactly those kind of claims.
I'm so sorry for having a life, i guess ill live in blissful ignorance and let you boys do what you do best.
 
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