Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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British intelligence update today.
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Harlequin said:
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People don't realise quite how old a lot of guns in use today are.

The Browning M1919 .30 machine gun was introduced in 1919 and has been used ever since.
The M2 .50 machine gun in use by NATO (and I'm guessing Ukraine) has been in service since 1933.
The DShK which is the Soviet equivelant, since 1938.

I believe the oldest rifle still in active service is the Mosin Nagant 1891 which has shown up in Ukraine as a designated marksman rifle on both sides of the conflict.

The fact of the matter is there is only really a few different operating systems for automatic guns which are reliable and don't require an external power source:
Simple blowback - The act of firing the gun causes the cartridge case to be rammed out of the rear of the chamber, cycling the bolt. - Various sub-machine guns. Small caliber pistols.
Delayed blowback - Same as above but with some form of delaying mechanism to allow pressure to drop in the chamber before the gun cycles - HK MP5, Famas, many others
Short-stroke gas operated - The exhaust gasses are used to move a piston a short distance that causes the action to cycle using the momentum of the bolt - AR15 and others
Long-stroke gas operated - As above but the piston moves the full length of the cycle and is usually part of the bolt carrier - AK models
Short-recoil operated - The recoil of the barrel causes the action to cycle - M2 .50 and others

There are of course many weapons that use external electrical or hydraulic power to run the action. Think gatling-style guns such as the Minigun, and chain guns like that on the AH64 Apache helicopter.
 
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dowie said:
That is an interesting point, the water cooling is going to be very useful if they're putting a serious amount of rounds through. Not particularly practical to carry around but for defending a position it's got some utility at least in that respect vs other machine guns. If you use a GPMG in the SF role you'll have two spare barrels, basically, you're supposed to change the barrel after every couple of belts you get through... though soon enough all three are hot... if you're putting loads and loads of rounds through then they can start glowing a bit!

The bit about the new sights is pointless tho IMO, machine guns are area weapons, the further out you go the larger the beaten zone (area where the rounds fall), they should be operated as a pair, the 2nd guy can use binoculars, watch the tracer (or just the splash at longer ranges >1100 meters) and give adjustments.
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Haven’t watched the video, but the new sights might be indirect fire sights were you aim the MG up into the air just like you do a howitzer and put suppressing/denying fire out beyond 2,000 metres.

As for these MMGs being 100 years old, if it works, don’t change it.
 
Longbow said:
You can make that emotional argument to support most wars though, and people often do.

Some people are pro war, some are anti war. To say the anti war crowd don't care about people being murder is quite the oversimplification, especially as more will likely die as a result of war instead of a peaceful resolution.
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The only people who are pro-war are Putin and his supporters. Everyone else wants the war to end. The question isn't pro- or anti- war it's whether you want back Ukraine in the fight forced upon them, or whether you want them to appease the fascist leader who has sent his armies into their country.

The idea that there's a peaceful resolution to this outside of capitulation to Putin is for the birds.

Ukraine wins or fascism wins. There is no third option.
 
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Mr Jack said:
The only people who are pro-war are Putin and his supporters. Everyone else wants the war to end. The question isn't pro- or anti- war it's whether you want back Ukraine's in the fight forced upon them, or whether you want them to appease the fascist leader who has sent his armies into their country.

The idea that there's a peaceful resolution to this outside of capitulation to Putin is for the birds.
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Yeah, it sometimes feels as though people have a five minute memory.

I remember back at the start of the year, when Russia was massing it's troops near the Ukraine border, EVERYBODY was pleading with Russia to not attack/invade Ukraine. Putin reassured us with words like "this is just an exercise" "the idea we're invading, is western hysteria and nonsense" etc, etc.

Then he waltzed right in and started smashing the country to bits without a single solitary reason to do so, other than his bent personal ambitions.
 
He originally claimed he just wanted Crimea, yet here we are...again.

Negotiations are just a slower way for Ukrain to get wiped off the map, bit by bit.

Remove Russia by force, or capitulate, but no one should try to pretend that anything negotiated with Russia has any meaning.
 
BowdonUK said:
Think about what you're saying.

Why would Putin/Russia do it? They have a tap at their end. They can just turn it off.

All this as done is make sure Russia can't use the pipeline after this is over.
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They've done it multiple times before.
 
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