Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Anyone else read this BBC news story? The Russians threatened to rape a male priest. Awful


As Russia scrambles to pull its civilian staff out of the city of Kherson ahead of a Ukrainian counter-offensive, Ukrainian father Dmytro Bahnenko reflects on the months he and his family lived there under occupation and secretly filmed for BBC Eye at great personal risk.

Nothing had been the same since Russian soldiers first marched past our window in the late afternoon of 1 March, and I began filming our lives for a BBC Eye documentary. My day job had been as a local reporter. Never did I think I would be filming an invasion of my home city - the only Ukrainian regional capital to have been captured.

I began to cycle to an Orthodox church where the local community gathered and from where I could help others with practical tasks. I got to know its charismatic priest, Father Serhiy Chudynovych. He seemed to have a particular energy, dashing from one project to another. He was running a community centre, cafe and mobile hairdresser, and perhaps most importantly, risking his life by crossing military lines to collect medicine no longer available in Kherson.

"It is scary when you're driving and you're shot at - you need to get away fast," he told me.


On 30 March, I again cycled to Father Serhiy's church. But when I arrived, I discovered that he, too, had been taken away by Russian authorities. I quickly deleted all his messages to me, and waited nervously for news.

That night he posted on social media that he had been released unharmed, but my subsequent visits to his church suggested a man changed - he appeared tired and distracted.

Over the weeks, he became increasingly distant from me and others who visited him. He no longer even went to church. When I called him he told me everything was fine.

But towards the end of April he again posted on social media. He revealed not only that he had escaped Kherson, but that he had lied in his original post. He says unidentified Russian men forced him to kneel, gripped his head between their knees, and threatened to rape him. Under duress he agreed to become a collaborator.

"To be honest, I'm ashamed," he said in his post.
 
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Yep, I was only following my orders has never washed.

True, but it's generally accepted that soldiers in war can fight and kill other soldiers, as well as carrying out other "normal" acts of war. Soldiers are not considered to be personally responsible for the war, or its justifiability, in general, only for carrying out acts considered to be war crimes.
 
True, but it's generally accepted that soldiers in war can fight and kill other soldiers, as well as carrying out other "normal" acts of war. Soldiers are not considered to be personally responsible for the war, or its justifiability, in general, only for carrying out acts considered to be war crimes.

And these soldiers, of all colours, enable the **** world we live in.
 
So I turn up to your door with 3 others, all armed. I point a machine gun at your wife/child and say "get in the van, you have been chosen to defend the motherland".

During the drive to the training camp, I make it clear that if you fail to conform, your wife and daughter will be sent to a labour camp and raped/starved.

It's not that simple, it really isn't.

Sure there are some lunatic, evangelical followers of Putin who want to simple destroy Ukraine, but that doesn't not mean that *all* Russians are the same.

It's why I hate dehumanising phrases like "orcs" being used. These are all individuals, many of whom are only there under extreme duress.

I think some people need to watch the Black Mirror episode "Men Against Fire" :(
 
"Released a missle"?

As in "launched a missle"? Or maybe they just jettisoned one and it fell to the ground?

WTF are they talking about "released a missle"?

They make it sound like the missle was a baby seal rescued from an oil spill, rehabilitated, and realeased back into the ocean.
Fly close to the recon plane and then drop a missile, not fire it. Still very dangerous.
 
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Not even most of them, i suspect most Russians don't care for or want this war, they just want to get on with their lives. Same was germans in ww2, I bet a huge chuck didn't agree with what the Nazis were doing and wanted nothing to do with it
Just want to get on with their lives in blissful ignorance.

Until that is when their son, brother or father is caught kicking and screaming to the recruitment centres for their 3 days training.
 
So I turn up to your door with 3 others, all armed. I point a machine gun at your wife/child and say "get in the van, you have been chosen to defend the motherland".

During the drive to the training camp, I make it clear that if you fail to conform, your wife and daughter will be sent to a labour camp and raped/starved.

It's not that simple, it really isn't.

Sure there are some lunatic, evangelical followers of Putin who want to simple destroy Ukraine, but that doesn't not mean that *all* Russians are the same.

It's why I hate dehumanising phrases like "orcs" being used. These are all individuals, many of whom are only there under extreme duress.

It is that simple, its integrity and principle, your going to die anyway.

Same as all these individuals are doing all the war crimes. Tar them with the same brush until proven otherwise.
 
'Released' a missile, or it just fell off of the pylon due to poor maintenance?
Russia claimed it was an unintended release. At least they are drawing lines because this would get out of hand very quickly they start engaging NATO aircraft out of Russian airspace.
 
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White House’s Kirby:
- Russian Military Based in Crimea Have Been Piloting Iranian Drones for Attacks on Ukraine
- Russia Has Received Dozens of Iranian Drones so Far and Likely to Get More
- Russia May Seek Surface To Surface Missiles From Iran Due to Weapons Shortages
- U.S. Will Pursue All Means to Expose and Deter to Make It Harder for Iran To Sell These Weapons to Russia
- Tehran Is Now Directly Engaged on the Ground but We Don’t Think It Will Change the Course of The War
- U.S. Is Not Focused on Iran Nuclear Deal at the Moment Because of Iranian Supplies of Weapons to Russia
- U.S. Is Exploring New Sanctions to Impose on Iran
- U.S. Defense Department Is Looking at Potential Air Defense Solutions for Ukraine
- U.S. Also Talking to Partners With Air Defense Capabilities on What They Could Supply to Ukraine
- No Expectation That There Will Be Any Change in US-UK Partnership on Ukraine
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-attacks-ukraine-white-house-says-2022-10-20/
 
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