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Here's a fun fact: to this day, nobody knows what this name was intended to signify. Is it supposed to mean New South Wales, or New, South, Wales?
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But it happened, and it needs to be resolved. I'm simply suggesting that it is unfeasible and unrealistic to expect resolution by total Uktainian conquest and victory, and then Russia to accept this, other than leaving a situationlike Korea or Palestine.
Lots of things are illegal but happen anyway. I've addressed the point by stating that, perhaps, the best outcome is for Ukraine to accept the outline of the peace deal that was outlined earlier, and then be defended as part of NATO. You seem to be an all out victory kind of guy, and willing to fight for the last Ukranian. So... opinion is divided on the matter, and I've voiced mine, that's all.
I dont agree - EXACTLY the same, in a virtually identical time frame. The United States was colonised with the original 13 states, and indiginous natives owning the lands west of the Appalacian mountains, by treaty with the British government. After after an orchestrated uprising by tax-avoiding Bostonians, the new USA decided they had manifest destiny to take anything else they wanted, and proceeded to do so by measures up to and including ethnic cleansing, until they did.
Wrong. A seperatist administration was VOTED in and elected to hold a referendum on independence, and integrating with Russia, which they did. Thisadministration was replaced by the Kiev government which led to protests in the streets and insurrection, followed by invasion by Russia. Now, the United nations my regect the validity of the referendums, and refuse to recognise them, thut that's not worth anything unless the United Nations do something other than protest, we are where we are.
According to population census figures, run under Ukrainian rule and earlier, ethnic Russians have always outnumbered ethnic Ukrainians in Crimea... by about three to one. This will have got even more unbalanced since it has been settleded for eight years by Russia. Reports of resistance IN CRIMEA, in 2014, were by citizens protesting ad the replacement of the local administration.
Lets not talk about this, it's off-topic. But I did do a stint with the ONS which was shocking to me in the proportion in the number of people who, even though born and brought up in this country, consider themselves nationals of another.
I'd support NI independence, when the majority population there want it, hopefully soon. I'd also support Scotish Indepencence because I dont think the nats would be content with anything less, and the current situation where they demand veto power over the whole of the UK, despite having a lower population than say, Yorkshire, is untenable and unfair. And, if they go, I hope they are responsible for NI, since it was settled by 2/3 scottish colonists, under a Scottish King, when Scotland was independent. The English plantations and colonies in Ireland went a century ago. Ever wonder why the NI unionist dialect is 'Ulster Scots'? But again, off topic.
Given your willful misinterpretaion of my position, which is simply 'A way out, and possibly the best the Ukrainians could hope for', irrespective of right or wrong, and attributing views of me which I dont hold, I wont be engaging with you any more.
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Be a shame is US support stopped given its high ROI.
It's not everyday you get to destroy Russias military for the price of 6% of Afghanistan. Yes that's right, over the course of the first 8 months of this war the US has only given Ukraine military aid worth 6% of what the US spent in an 8 month period in Afghanistan
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I know Twitter's not the best benchmark for human behaviour (though I do still believe it represents humanity without the societal pretences which usually avoid chaos in the real world) but I'm seeing a post-Kherson, or maybe post-US-election surge in absolute bile from what seem to be US accounts. It's all rather depressing, because it does feel (that most dangerous of metrics!) like America is heading deeper into uncivil war, thanks to that simmering background of Trump-stirred, Putin-undermined distrust of the democratic process.
Ukraine needs to win and win quickly IMO, before things get more complicated than they already are.
Ukraine needs to win and win quickly IMO, before things get more complicated than they already are.
Turrets getting more flying hours I see.
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There's only going to be one winner in that contest and it's not Russia.
Here a link to a very good Source for this
Putin 'offered surrender terms by West' as he loses control of Kherson
The plan would see Putin give up all territory he currently occupies in Ukraine except Crimea, which would become a demilitarized zone, in return for avoiding war crimes prosecution.www.dailymail.co.uk
To be fair that *does* sound like the sort of thing the West would push for... I'd just be surprised if Ukraine were to start with being willing to give up Crimea, though the demilitarised aspect does change that slightly.
It seems plausible more as the end result of negotiations but I guess, in fact, if they're approaching this as "this is what we're willing to offer" and not budging on it then it is more feasible and the negotiations just become more about how to implement it and on what timeline... + filling in the details.
Seems they have also blown the road and rail links on the Nova Kakhovka dam, possibly also damaging some of the sluice gates.
Hopefully they havnt damaged the main structure of the dam too badly in the process, videos show a very large explosion, I'm sure the intention was to take out the transport links however a very very stupid move, and it still looks like it would be easy enough to bridge with bridging equipment. Though I imagine the approaches will be pre-registered for Arty strikes in the event that Ukrainian forces attempt to cross there.
Although I do think it would be rather foolish to attempt to cross on such a choke point.
Hopefully they havnt damaged the main structure of the dam too badly in the process, videos show a very large explosion, I'm sure the intention was to take out the transport links however a very very stupid move, and it still looks like it would be easy enough to bridge with bridging equipment. Though I imagine the approaches will be pre-registered for Arty strikes in the event that Ukrainian forces attempt to cross there.
Although I do think it would be rather foolish to attempt to cross on such a choke point.
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Moment wives of mobilised Russian troops find the men near frontline
Up to 70 women had set off on foot from Belgorod to occupied Luhansk region in search of their spouses following a 'massacre' blamed on inept senior officers.
In Russia wife will collect you from the battlefield.
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Capturing the bridges and the dam across the river was one of the very few successes the Russians had, don't even have that show for it now.
If Russia really does want to negotiate, I don't understand why you would just abandon Kherson - one lesss thing to bargain with.
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Reporter is doing a very good job of making a very straightforward (fairly unbiased) report on people coming out to greet the soldiers. They are mistaking him as a soldier I think, until he tells them. But great all the same.
On same thread there are locals feeding soldiers in their homes etc. I imagine they don't have that much food themselves.
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@I_M_Weasel They were probably scared to death the AFU would do the same thing they did in the East. They were already losing ground. Withdrawing by yourself, rather than getting routed, is a face saving thing I would imagine for Russia. "It's all going to plan".
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Because they didn't just abandon Kherson, they had no choice really... it was inevitably going to be taken, Ukraine had partially destroyed the bridges, made logistics incredibly difficult, destroyed ammunition dumps, were conducting a load of "shaping operations".
Russia had a chance to either get out in an orderly manner or get crushed anyway... in the end they only managed to get some (important) people out in an orderly manner and left a load of directionless troops clueless until the last minute + underestimated just how quickly Ukraine would take it and their left-behind troops would collapse.
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