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Thought we wanted aircraft carriers?
Can’t have everything. Just had 20 years of Afganistan. Not MBTs. The magic all of everything doesn’t exist.
Can’t pay nurses. Can’t have a thousand Challenger 3 plus drones etc either.

Flip side though it doesn't help if we can pay nurses but can't defend our way of life should it come to it - and I'd hope after Ukraine people will appreciate a little more just how quickly geopolitical stability can unravel. Though largely the problems in this country are due to poor decision making, short-sightedness and [semi-legalised] corruption rather than what we actually could or couldn't afford.
 
Flip side though it doesn't help if we can pay nurses but can't defend our way of life should it come to it - and I'd hope after Ukraine people will appreciate a little more just how quickly geopolitical stability can unravel. Though largely the problems in this country are due to poor decision making, short-sightedness and [semi-legalised] corruption rather than what we actually could or couldn't afford.
Which bit of poor decision making was it? which bit of the armed forces you think is corrupt?
I quite like being treated in hospital. Weird that.
Imaginary perfect ability to have quantity and quality in everything whilst paying for nothing.
 
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Me explaining that we can’t have a plethora of kit for every contingency is impossible.. too difficult to grasp.
I see you added this bit to your post... If that's what you meant why not say it? You seemed to be linking it in to not being able to send tanks to Ukraine, and implying we had to get rid of the aircraft carriers or tanks for some incontrovertible reason though.

Of course that is true as a broad statement but so what? Why does that mean we can't give Ukraine tanks or that we have to get rid of the aircraft carriers or whatever it is you're arguing for?
 
Does the Challenger use ammo that is readily available in Ukraine? What about repair and maintenance?
No, that is one of the advantages of the Challenger 3, it uses the same type of gun as other NATO tanks, I think we are the only ones that use a rifled gun, hence we would need to supply all the ammo for it. Where as someone mention Germany being unable to supply ammo for the Leopards but they use the same ammo as the Abrams and NATO should have a bigger stockpile available than what we have for the challengers.
 
Can’t pay nurses. Can’t have a thousand Challenger 3 plus drones etc either.

Flip side though it doesn't help if we can pay nurses but can't defend our way of life should it come to it

I like the challenger 2 move. Should pave the way for other countries to start supplying more advanced tanks like the Leopard 2 too, and although it's only 10 I'd kind of hope that they get used mainly for training and we follow them up with more so they can actually get significant numbers out on operations.

I hope we give them a lot more than 10. Maybe even 50%+ of the whole fleet. At the end of the day do we really need the tanks for anything else?

We've already seen UK soldiers driving ambulances during NHS strikes and Tory claims that striking nurses help Putin. Maybe the smart move is to hang onto the tanks and use them to keep the nurses in line?
 
Problem Germany has is low ammunition stocks for all its weapons, including the ones its offering Ukraine.

Germany does, but these weapons are stocked by many others.

I did read that Germany has to give permission for the Leopards to be sent to Ukraine from other countries, due to their export conditions. Not sure if that is true or not.

Yes, that's correct. Usually export permissions for military supplies are forbidden from further export to a third party. Obviously this doesn't stop such exports but it limits them and jacks up the price.
 
Might be better to buy up 10 Chieftain mk11`s - and before the `omg engines` brigade start blabbering, the mk11 was the best and was actually a very reliable piece of kit; and come with a thermal sight, something russian kit lacks
 
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