Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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"The Kh-22 missile is an Anti Ship Missile" - Just to clarify this particular bit I've seen around - The Kh-22 has 3 different guidance sections that can be used, 2 use a radar (active or passive) and are primarily for anti-ship, however, the last is a specific land attack guidance section but it relies on a inertial navigation system (uses mechanical gyros & accelerometers) to know where it and the target are which, without constant adjustments via GLOSNASS (which this missile doesn't have), means that the missile and it's 2000lb warhead are more accurately called "area" weapons with a very large CEP (Circular Error Probability - how far away you miss by) with the UAF say "hundreds of meters in error") rather than calling it a precision weapon. So I would imagine that you'd have to be fairly desperate to use these very inaccurate weapons if you are trying to hit fairly small "command & control nodes", as the Russians claimed to have hit, over using something with a CEP of single figure meters like they were doing at the start, and are still occasionally using when hitting a very small number of power stations quite accurately.
The Ukrainian MoD said all the missiles were Kh-22's which, whilst fairly close, aren't actually "hypersonics" i.e. Mach 5+ capable. In a FB statement that the UAF gave (linked below) they said that they can see the launch aircraft which, when combined with other intel sources, is how they know what type of missile was used.
The reason they gave for the lack of detection of these missiles is due to its "relatively" small frontal aspect size, combined with its flight profile (lofted to 90,000ft) and the speed (Mach 4.6) of the missile which is almost a ballistic missile flight path hence the UAF asking for more PAC-2/3 Patriots and/or SAMP-T (UK ASTER missile defence) which have a better chance of detecting (much better radar) and hitting (much better interceptor) this type of flight profile missile than any of the ex-Soviet SAMs that Ukraine is currently using.
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FB Link to the Ukrainian AF's own post on the attack (auto-translated) - https://www.facebook.com/story.php?...4ddc7VTiYAyTL5BGKowe5PWwjl&id=100064738717463
The Ukrainian MoD said all the missiles were Kh-22's which, whilst fairly close, aren't actually "hypersonics" i.e. Mach 5+ capable. In a FB statement that the UAF gave (linked below) they said that they can see the launch aircraft which, when combined with other intel sources, is how they know what type of missile was used.
The reason they gave for the lack of detection of these missiles is due to its "relatively" small frontal aspect size, combined with its flight profile (lofted to 90,000ft) and the speed (Mach 4.6) of the missile which is almost a ballistic missile flight path hence the UAF asking for more PAC-2/3 Patriots and/or SAMP-T (UK ASTER missile defence) which have a better chance of detecting (much better radar) and hitting (much better interceptor) this type of flight profile missile than any of the ex-Soviet SAMs that Ukraine is currently using.
The residential building in Dnipro was hit by a Kh-22 missile, which cannot be shot down by the Ukrainian air defense - Air Force
The Air Force Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine clarified the information about the missile that hit the residential building in Dnipro
mil.in.ua
Air Force: Ukraine needs Patriot to down Kh-22 missiles Russia used to hit high-rise in Dnipro
Ukraine's Air Force Command reported that Russia used five Tu-22М3 long-range supersonic missile carrier bombers to fire five Kh-22 missiles against Ukraine on Jan. 14. They were launched from Russia's border Kursk Oblast and the Azov Sea. One of those missiles hit a high-rise building in the...
kyivindependent.com
FB Link to the Ukrainian AF's own post on the attack (auto-translated) - https://www.facebook.com/story.php?...4ddc7VTiYAyTL5BGKowe5PWwjl&id=100064738717463
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Is that all that's being given? FFS
We barely have any tanks, it's more about opening the flood gates for more to come in from other countries.
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The guy knows what he's on about and he speaks sense.
What is going on in Belarus is ominous and IMO potentially not just an attempt to keep Ukraine distracted, however by all accounts the ground along both sides of the border is a muddy, swampy mess right now, if it does hard freeze might be another story.
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It definitely seems like Belarus is gearing up for more than just a staring contest. Ukraine will have had a fair bit of time to prepare for it at least.
I'd be wanting to get better stuff into their hands ASAP here because fighting on multiple fronts is not going to be fun.
Longer range HIMARS missiles would be very effective, especially if they can target more ammo dumps that Russia assumed safe.
I'd be wanting to get better stuff into their hands ASAP here because fighting on multiple fronts is not going to be fun.
Longer range HIMARS missiles would be very effective, especially if they can target more ammo dumps that Russia assumed safe.
We should really be stepping up our support for Ukraine, and I mean just go compmetely overboard
If Putin asks why we are committing so much, he gets a one word answer back; Salisbury.
Make it clear that things like that aren't forgotten.
If Putin asks why we are committing so much, he gets a one word answer back; Salisbury.
Make it clear that things like that aren't forgotten.
From what I can find most of the border areas are around 6-8 inches of snow on top of slush, or wet and muddy - very much not good terrain for attacking over.
EDIT: Several possibly sightings of S-300/400 complexes being setup near the Polish border in Belarus which also seems like not the kind of signs you want to see to me.
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What was the ground like back in February last year when the invasion started ?
As didn't they come across from Belarusback back then
Similar to how it is now - there are videos the pro-Russian lot are sharing about at the moment showing lots of tanks built up (claiming it is a new invasion coming) which are from last February showing weather similar, but not quite as bad, as it is now.
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It's not the same attack"The Kh-22 missile is an Anti Ship Missile" - Just to clarify this particular bit I've seen around - The Kh-22 has 3 different guidance sections that can be used, 2 use a radar (active or passive) and are primarily for anti-ship, however, the last is a specific land attack guidance section but it relies on a inertial navigation system (uses mechanical gyros & accelerometers) to know where it and the target are which, without constant adjustments via GLOSNASS (which this missile doesn't have), means that the missile and it's 2000lb warhead are more accurately called "area" weapons with a very large CEP (Circular Error Probability - how far away you miss by) with the UAF say "hundreds of meters in error") rather than calling it a precision weapon. So I would imagine that you'd have to be fairly desperate to use these very inaccurate weapons if you are trying to hit fairly small "command & control nodes", as the Russians claimed to have hit, over using something with a CEP of single figure meters like they were doing at the start, and are still occasionally using when hitting a very small number of power stations quite accurately.
The Ukrainian MoD said all the missiles were Kh-22's which, whilst fairly close, aren't actually "hypersonics" i.e. Mach 5+ capable. In a FB statement that the UAF gave (linked below) they said that they can see the launch aircraft which, when combined with other intel sources, is how they know what type of missile was used.
The reason they gave for the lack of detection of these missiles is due to its "relatively" small frontal aspect size, combined with its flight profile (lofted to 90,000ft) and the speed (Mach 4.6) of the missile which is almost a ballistic missile flight path hence the UAF asking for more PAC-2/3 Patriots and/or SAMP-T (UK ASTER missile defence) which have a better chance of detecting (much better radar) and hitting (much better interceptor) this type of flight profile missile than any of the ex-Soviet SAMs that Ukraine is currently using.
The residential building in Dnipro was hit by a Kh-22 missile, which cannot be shot down by the Ukrainian air defense - Air Force
The Air Force Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine clarified the information about the missile that hit the residential building in Dnipro
Air Force: Ukraine needs Patriot to down Kh-22 missiles Russia used to hit high-rise in Dnipro
Ukraine's Air Force Command reported that Russia used five Tu-22М3 long-range supersonic missile carrier bombers to fire five Kh-22 missiles against Ukraine on Jan. 14. They were launched from Russia's border Kursk Oblast and the Azov Sea. One of those missiles hit a high-rise building in the...
FB Link to the Ukrainian AF's own post on the attack (auto-translated) - https://www.facebook.com/story.php?...4ddc7VTiYAyTL5BGKowe5PWwjl&id=100064738717463
Russia's 10th mass missile strike on Ukraine kills civilians, hits critical infrastructure
Russia unleashed its 10th mass missile strike targeting Ukraine's critical infrastructure in the afternoon of Jan. 14. The nationwide attack damaged critical infrastructure in several oblasts, according to Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal. The hits caused emergency blackouts in multiple regions...
kyivindependent.com
It even says in the UAF FB post in reference to the different attack on the same day
So they detected those missiles with radar you are referencing, the strike on Kyiv went undetected but apparently on the same FB page further down it mentions they were S-300/S-400 missiles in a ballistic trajectory which I guess explain the lack of detection although strange considering they've detected S-300/400 raids in the past
We're 38,000 years too early for Grim Dark builds
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Also have obligations when it comes to supplying NATO with armored units so what we've spared is probably all we can do, really not much use for tanks on an island but the speed at which tanks have been obliterated in Ukraine is probably causing issues with our pivot to amphibious/naval.
Here is the list of those involved in the Dnipro apartment bombing, including pilots that flew the planes and service crew that loaded and programmed them
www.molfar.global
Russian Federation's Terrorist Attack at Dnipro City: 55 Names from 52nd Guard's Regiment (Shaykivka) Responsible for Residential Building Rocket Attack — Molfar
Molfar OSINT community conducted an investigation into Dnipro residential building attack. On January 14, 2023, russians ran a terrorist attack on a residential building in the city of Dnipro. We documented the aftermath through photos and videos, refuted claims of Ukrainian air defense error...
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*Russia and Belarus Start Joint Air Drills - Belarusian Defence Ministry
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-sparking-fear-kyiv-new-offensive-2023-01-16/
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-sparking-fear-kyiv-new-offensive-2023-01-16/
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I know Russia leaks like a sieve, but this seems too quick to me?Here is the list of those involved in the Dnipro apartment bombing, including pilots that flew the planes and service crew that loaded and programmed them
Russian Federation's Terrorist Attack at Dnipro City: 55 Names from 52nd Guard's Regiment (Shaykivka) Responsible for Residential Building Rocket Attack — Molfar
Molfar OSINT community conducted an investigation into Dnipro residential building attack. On January 14, 2023, russians ran a terrorist attack on a residential building in the city of Dnipro. We documented the aftermath through photos and videos, refuted claims of Ukrainian air defense error...
Probably the Kremlin itself leaking it as a means to shift blame down the chain.
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I think this will be last action from Putin if he will be on blink of collapsing.
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The Americans could just give the Ukrainians several pallets of the USAFs new Rapid Dragon weapon.
Basically, it’s a palletised load of ACM-158 JASSM cruise missiles with pre-loaded targets that you just drop out the back of a cargo plane via a drogue parachute. Any cargo plane. Kick the, off the ramp, the pallet opens up, the missiles light up and speed off to go bang somewhere up to 500 miles away.
Someone just Amazon Prime’d precision missile strikes.
Basically, it’s a palletised load of ACM-158 JASSM cruise missiles with pre-loaded targets that you just drop out the back of a cargo plane via a drogue parachute. Any cargo plane. Kick the, off the ramp, the pallet opens up, the missiles light up and speed off to go bang somewhere up to 500 miles away.
Someone just Amazon Prime’d precision missile strikes.
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