Some of the guys in these and related videos are obviously very experienced and know when they can get away with it, when pushing is better than digging in, etc. but with such a mix of skills there are huge risks - some instances where they got lucky really and if the situation had been a combat effective BMP, etc. with support they'd have been completely out of position and easy prey to 30mm cannon fire
Reminds me of that footage of the Russian tank rolling up to a bunch of Ukrainians around an abandoned BMP and getting destroyed when the tanker realises they're enemy
Perun`s latest video covers a bit of this, about the quality of equipment in storage also the quality of the `captured` equipment (on both sides). Whilst some are keys in engine running, so change the flag and go, a lot more requires fixing. The T90`s we are seeing i suspect arnt storage versions either. At least 2 were for India.
I don't know how many are export variants vs domestic military, etc. but one thing that a lot of commentators seem to have missed is that Russia had a couple of hundred or so T-90 models garaged up, most of which seem turnkey - possibly intended for export to India, etc. unfortunately I've only seen videos and photos looking out over the front of them or other odd angles/poor quality footage so can't identify what they are other than being T-90s.
I don't know how many are export variants vs domestic military, etc. but one thing that a lot of commentators seem to have missed is that Russia had a couple of hundred or so T-90 models garaged up, most of which seem turnkey - possibly intended for export to India, etc. unfortunately I've only seen videos and photos looking out over the front of them or other odd angles/poor quality footage so can't identify what they are other than being T-90s.
From my own reading, at least 300 were sent from Russian service to india about 20 years ago (much as the South Koreans are sending K2`s, straight for Poland) I would put T90`s in actual active service at around 400 , with 200 or so in sorage
citation https://www.iiss.org/publications/the-military-balance - im sure you can locate it if needed online.
Some of the guys in these and related videos are obviously very experienced and know when they can get away with it, when pushing is better than digging in, etc. but with such a mix of skills there are huge risks - some instances where they got lucky really and if the situation had been a combat effective BMP, etc. with support they'd have been completely out of position and easy prey to 30mm cannon fire
I imagine if in that first video, instead of the nlaw going off first and getting a good hit, what if the bmp spotted them first and killed the anti tank guy with its 30mm gun and now the rest of the team are exposed and out of weapons to defend with. Sometimes life is like call of duty and whoever shoots first wins
From my own reading, at least 300 were sent from Russian service to india about 20 years ago (much as the South Koreans are sending K2`s, straight for Poland) I would put T90`s in actual active service at around 400 , with 200 or so in sorage
citation https://www.iiss.org/publications/the-military-balance - im sure you can locate it if needed online.
Wonder if the 50 at Severodonetsk are the ones they were pulling out of garages 2-3 months back or so, which is likely about what they had in storage in a condition to send I suspect.
I imagine if in that first video, instead of the nlaw going off first and getting a good hit, what if the bmp spotted them first and killed the anti tank guy with its 30mm gun and now the rest of the team are exposed and out of weapons to defend with. Sometimes life is like call of duty and whoever shoots first wins
Another instance really where the Russian tactics and utilisation of vehicles is reducing their effectiveness - they had the support there, Spetsnaz, apparently a second BMP to make that a tough fight instead it was a mess.
Discussed this today with a Russian friend of mine who lives in the UK today (emigrated after Putin became president so no guess how he feels about him). Basically German tanks rolling into the former USSR would be a major boon for Putin, more so than the actual tanks would be to Ukraine.
The simple rationale for this is that while WW2 is regarded historically in the west as a battle against tyranny/fascism, for Russia (and presumably for Belarus and the self proclaimed republics in Ukraine's east) it is regarded historically as a battle against an enemy that took no prisoners and was hell bent on their annihilation. Whereas France was allowed to surrender and got a puppet government, and Britain was bombarded to try and make us agree to a truce, in the east the war far far less civilised. The Nazis viewed the Slavic people as subhuman and so keeping them as prisoners wasn't necessary (20% of all holocaust victims were Soviet POWs) and the civilians were worked to death and tortured, they eradicated entire villages, when all was said and done more Soviet citizens were killed in Nazi occupied areas of the USSR than the combined populations of Wales and Scotland.
That is the memory/history that German tanks rolling into the former USSR will dig up, hence why the Russian government is so publicly opposed to it (though in secret they are probably hoping for it as the propaganda value will be far more beneficial to them than the tanks are to Ukraine).
I think another aspect related to that as well - they can more easily use nuclear intimidation directly or hinted at to try and bully Germany - they know it won't work so well against the US, UK, France, etc. and Poland probably just doesn't give a toss about nuclear threats.
I imagine if in that first video, instead of the nlaw going off first and getting a good hit, what if the bmp spotted them first and killed the anti tank guy with its 30mm gun and now the rest of the team are exposed and out of weapons to defend with. Sometimes life is like call of duty and whoever shoots first wins
From what I understand either in the video or other sources, the BMP was moving up to the same spot, firing a few rounds off and then backing up. After a few times of doing the same thing they knew where it would be and set up to get it.
A helicopter crashed in fog near a nursery outside Kyiv on Wednesday, killing 14 people, including Ukraine's interior minister, in what President Volodymyr Zelenskiy called a "terrible tragedy," before calling for an investigation.
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Ukrainian National Police Chief:
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Polish Prime Minister Morawiecki:
- EU Needs More Sanctions On Russia
- Sanctions On Russia Have Started To Bite
- Poland Wants Up To 100 Tanks To Be Sent To Ukraine
Lithuanian Foreign Minister:
- Confident Positive Decision Will Be Made on Main Battle Tank Deliveries to Ukraine
- British Decision to Deliver Challenger Tanks Makes It More Difficult for Others Not to Deliver Them
- If West Is Serious About Ukraine Winning It Needs to Send Many More Types of Weaponry
Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov:
- Crisis in Ukraine Started Way Before Special Military Operation
- What Is Happening in Ukraine Is the Result of U.S. Preparation for Hybrid War Against Russia
- European Union Has Been Fully Subjugated to the Dictatorship of America
- A Lot of Support for Ukraine Shows That the West Is Betting Big on the War Against Russia
- The West Will Use the Means Used Against Russia to Deal With Any Other Unpopular Country
- Like Napoleon and Hitler, U.S. Has Formed Coalition From Europeans Against Russia and Is Waging War Against Russia in Ukraine
- With The Support Of The West, Ukraine Created A Nazi Police State
- There Should Be No Military Infrastructure in Ukraine Threatening Russia's Security
- Talks With Ukraine's Zelenskiy Are Not Possible
- Zelensky's Peaceful Initiative To Resolve The Conflict Is Absurd
- We Will Be Ready to Respond to Western Proposals on Ukraine
- Even In The New Geopolitical Environment, The West Wants To "Rob The Whole World"
- We Don't See Any Serious Proposals
- West Decides Everything for Ukraine
- It Will Take Time To Form A Multipolar And Just World
- West Tries to Wear Down Russia by Sending More Weapons to Ukraine
- The Targets Of Special Military Operations Are Not Fabricated, They Are Determined According To The Threat To Russia's Security
- It's Senseless to Discuss Only Ukraine with West
- Japan Has Embarked On The Road Of Militarization
- Russia Will Establish A Form Of Cooperation With Friendly Countries That Will Not Be Influenced By The West
- Humiliation of Ethnic Russians in Ukraine is Unacceptable
- Since The End Of The Cold War, The U.S. Has Invaded The Territory Of Other Countries About 300 Times
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- Russia Will Have to Undertake Corresponding Military Measures in Case Finland and Sweden Join NATO
- Europe’s Switch to LNG Will Lead to Expensive Production
- The Most Tragic Word in 2022 Was 'War", "Victory" is the Most Reassuring
- Relations with Arabic World Are on the Up
- Despite Pressure From The West, No Arab Country Has Joined The Ranks Of Anti-Russian Sanctions
- Western Countries Are Trying To Build A Bloc Against Russia And China In The Asia-Pacific Region
- Relations with U.S. Won't Be As Before
- Dismisses Talks of Reparations or Tribunal Over Ukraine
- Washington Broke Off Strategic Dialogue with Russia
- Biden Had Asked Putin in 2022 to Get U.S., Russia's Top Spies to Meet
- Obama Started Diplomatic Row with Russia in December 2016
- Headcount of Diplomats is in Favour of U.S.
- American Diplomats Should Not Cry Over Not Getting Visas
- Military Drills with China Strengthen Our Strategic Partnership
- U.S. Can Not Stand Alone Against Russia and China Together
- That's Why U.S. Needs to Fully Mobilise the West
- Sanctions Helped Russia to Get Rid of Dependence on the West
- Half of Russia and China's Trade is Serviced in Roubles and Yuan
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Could easily be done.
Poland give the tanks to Ukraine.
America gives Poland the M1 - which they are already buying.
Other countries help pay the bill.
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