It’s not even German forces stuff that’s being used so how does it weaken Germany if say poland sends tanks it’s already bought and paid for? Kinda like saying your not allowed to drive your BMW to Spain as it will weaken BMW…
Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Joint Press Conference Austin/Pistorius - https://youtu.be/ttQKSYT_BLU
German Defence Minister Pistorius:
- Foundation of NATO Is That We Proceed With Common Values, Responsibility
- We Stand Shoulder to Shoulder With Allies
- In Future We Will Support Ukraine
U.S. Defence Secretary Austin:
- Germany Remains One the Most Important Allies for Washington
- Thanks German Government for All They Have Done to Help Ukraine
*Swedish Court Finds Two Brothers Guilty of Spying for Russia
German Defence Minister Pistorius:
- Foundation of NATO Is That We Proceed With Common Values, Responsibility
- We Stand Shoulder to Shoulder With Allies
- In Future We Will Support Ukraine
U.S. Defence Secretary Austin:
- Germany Remains One the Most Important Allies for Washington
- Thanks German Government for All They Have Done to Help Ukraine
*Swedish Court Finds Two Brothers Guilty of Spying for Russia
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I expect it’s to prepare for the possibility of a wider conflict where the nuclear rhetoric continues whilst a conventional war expands into more of Europe. If Russia gains momentum then they may be tempted to try knowing the west aren’t likely to start throwing nukes around unless they do.
writing new history again, Putin claims many European countries helped Germany to invade Russia in WW2
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Putin suddenly claims that representatives of "many European countries" took part in the Siege of Leningrad
Russian dictator Vladimir Putin has suddenly stated that representatives of "many European countries" took part in the Siege of Leningrad during World War II. Source: Putin during events marking the 80th anniversary of the breakthrough of the Siege of Leningrad Quote: "Representatives of many...
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writing new history again, Putin claims many European countries helped Germany to invade Russia in WW2
Putin suddenly claims that representatives of "many European countries" took part in the Siege of Leningrad
Russian dictator Vladimir Putin has suddenly stated that representatives of "many European countries" took part in the Siege of Leningrad during World War II. Source: Putin during events marking the 80th anniversary of the breakthrough of the Siege of Leningrad Quote: "Representatives of many...
Well technically they probably did considering they were under occupation
And some volunteered to fight the Russians from those countries...Well technically they probably did considering they were under occupation
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Indeed which is where its super grey and basically a politician can frame anything
Say you were in The Netherlands in 1943 and you were offered to fight against Russia or you could simply be shot and dumped in a ditch, which would you choose. Plenty will say no, plenty will say sure.
I mean even in fairly apparent black and white (good guy vs bad guy) type scenarios some would go to the wrong side. We saw it with a limited number going to fight for ISIS from the UK. I bet there wouldn't be many but there would be some who would go and fight for Russia if you opened a recruitment office in the UK.
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This guy is such a clown. Pretty sure Russia lost in Afghanistan and the USA lost in Vietnam.
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Russia lost in Afghan yes.
I wouldn't say the US lost in Vietnam militarily, they lost the will to fight and pay the price of American lives.
This is behind some of the actions and thoughts since that to beat the west you only need to inflict enough casualties on them and they will pull out.
You saw it playing out with the US in Afghan as well.
Got visions of a huge scandal in Germany soon blowing up. German officials MP's receiving huge amounts of Money gifts etc in the near past from Russia. Something stinks to high heaven over scared attitude at sending certain weapons.
And that would be a scandal because.....?
Quick random google
Our political establishments, and especially London the money laundering capital of the world, have been awash with Russian money for a long time.
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I think there were many Dutch, Danish and Norwegian volunteers for the SS units, which were basically 'foreign legion' formations for Nazi sympathisers from those countries. Other now-Nato powers such as Italians, Rumanians and Hungarians fought under their own countries flag and control (but not around Leningrad, as far as I am aware).
Nordland SS
Netherlands SS Legion
There was even a small unit of British/Commonwealth volunteers (which never saw much active service). Their commanding officer, John Amery, who was hanged after the war, and was the son of Leo Amery, a WWII British cabinet minister, and his brother was Julian Amery, a cabinet minister under Edward Heath.
TBF, Labour aren't clean in all this either, they accept Russian money too, it's just they've not been in power lately to have the influence.
Russia have been trying to influence/undermine the political system in the West for probably decades with their dirty money.
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Yes.
Again once you have been invaded your down to a question, do I value my self preservation above anything else. If the answer is yes then sign up.
There will always be some, as soon as there is grey there is opportunity for politicians.
Even without having been invaded some will make the wrong decision.
Having a small subset of your population fighting against the direction of the main countries thoughts has probably happened in every single war ever.
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