They don't care what it says as they want the old USSR back and it doesn't deliver that for them.
Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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They don't care what it says as they want the old USSR back and it doesn't deliver that for them.
As an aside, I would get your antivirus, malware defences overhauled. Don't be a Russian bot.
The big worry has got to be how vulnerable the NHS and utilities IT systems are.
Not sure if Ukraine related but AWACS been up flying an almost perfect circle over Scotland for some hours now - been awhile since I've seen one doing that. (Maybe related to the Chile purchase but doubt that).
EDIT: Looks like was another flight of Russian bombers in the area again today.
EDIT: Looks like was another flight of Russian bombers in the area again today.
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I hate all this teasing, just give us the war ffs
Sadly I knew what music that was going to be before it even loaded in.
Russia and China release joint statement opposing NATO expansion and reaffirming their joint opposition to the independence of Taiwan.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-60257080
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-60257080
Russia did not say they affirm opposition to independance of Taiwan. They said they support one china policy. As far as I am aware most great powers including the US and Germany also formally support one china policy. One china policy is status quo, where formally Taiwan is part of PRC but defacto independant.
Kind of affirms opposition to independence of Taiwan.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...nsion-moscow-backs-beijing-taiwan-2022-02-04/
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...whilst China basically claims the entire South China sea, builds artificial Islands with runways, SAMS & other sophisticated weapons. Classic China.
Hmm kinda does if this is the actual quote, would be interesting to read the full statement.
...so if Russia were to do anything in Ukraine during Olympics should we/usa recall athletes, especially if China doesn't condemn Russia.
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Is the fake attack going to be like Saddam and his weapons of mass destruction which were definitely in the country but still to this day haven't been discovered
Yeap, I find it surprising that the same people who raged over being lied to by the US/UK over the WMD's in Iraq will still blindly accept that everything being told to them now is true and accurate just because the accused is seen as the "bad guy".
If they are faking the satellite photos of stuff being amassed at the border, there are a LOT of people in on the scam at this point.
The US knows more than European allies, hence difference in rhetoric between NATO/US and Germany/France.
During the security council meeting, NATO aligned countries made specific point not to mention Minks agreement, whereas neutral or Russia/China aligned countries made sure to mention Minks agreement. Minks agreement of course boils down to federalisation of Ukraine and perpetual veto on any NATO ascension.
Perhaps Ukraine is building up forces/equipment/expertise(especially with new Turkish drones and domestic production of thereof) to try to retake Donbas. If Ukraine tries to retake Donbas, Russia will not be able to support separatist element as it will not be enough and will have to invade formally (I am sure right now somebody will say it's not separatists it's all Russian forces but during the UN security council meeting Ukrainian representative said Donbas separatist forces stand at 30k with only 10% being Russia military).
So if Ukraine will eventually try to retake Donbas then Russian may have reason to pre-emtively invade to neuter offensive capabilities of Ukraine. The economic loss from sanctions is likely to be immense but if Russia believes that this is inevitable then no reason to delay it.
For me, that's the only scenario in which it makes sense for Russia to invade Ukraine at this point (since frozen conflict already exists to prevent NATO ascension).
If Ukraine will not try to retake Donbas by force then all these theatrics are rather pointless, as even Ukrainian president complained that the rhetoric is affecting the economy, so I am not sure why would the US up the rhetoric so much.
During the security council meeting, NATO aligned countries made specific point not to mention Minks agreement, whereas neutral or Russia/China aligned countries made sure to mention Minks agreement. Minks agreement of course boils down to federalisation of Ukraine and perpetual veto on any NATO ascension.
Perhaps Ukraine is building up forces/equipment/expertise(especially with new Turkish drones and domestic production of thereof) to try to retake Donbas. If Ukraine tries to retake Donbas, Russia will not be able to support separatist element as it will not be enough and will have to invade formally (I am sure right now somebody will say it's not separatists it's all Russian forces but during the UN security council meeting Ukrainian representative said Donbas separatist forces stand at 30k with only 10% being Russia military).
So if Ukraine will eventually try to retake Donbas then Russian may have reason to pre-emtively invade to neuter offensive capabilities of Ukraine. The economic loss from sanctions is likely to be immense but if Russia believes that this is inevitable then no reason to delay it.
For me, that's the only scenario in which it makes sense for Russia to invade Ukraine at this point (since frozen conflict already exists to prevent NATO ascension).
If Ukraine will not try to retake Donbas by force then all these theatrics are rather pointless, as even Ukrainian president complained that the rhetoric is affecting the economy, so I am not sure why would the US up the rhetoric so much.
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Amassing forces in itself does not indicate intent of invasion. Currently figure that is being cited by western intelligence is 100-150k forces. If I remember well last year it was 300k forces. Another important point is that they are being amassed for a formal reason - military drills/exercise that happen annually, both NATO/Ukraine and Russia on opposite sides.
On the other hand type of troops and infrastructure on the border matters. Are the troops/infrastructure present there now common for military exercise or not, if it is not then it may indicate intent to invade. I recall hearing that apparently blood transfusion infrastructure was set up thereabouts near Ukraine. I do not know if this is normal for military drills, if it's not then it surely provides a strong indicator that invasion is being planned.
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