Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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There is a delicate balance there - if Ukraine starts wrecking Russia on home soil then Russia will have little choice but to declare war and fully mobilise which isn't something Ukraine is ready for.

Stuff like launch sites, etc. Russia can hardly complain as they've not officially declared war.
I don't know if they can mobilise anymore than they are doing, They really are all in right now how much more can they do?

They are already facing a revolt with the current mobilisation, tens of thousands trying to get out the country.

I don't think ordinary Russians see this as a threat to Russia but want to avoid being sent to an innocent country to die.
 
If war goes INTO Russia, I suspect all Western support will dry up. We have no real desire for a war at this present time. IMO it would take more aggression from Russia, plus possibly some of their allies to cause provocation to NATO.
War can go into Russia but not with western equipment.

It's already been stated by the West that Ukrainian made weapons can be used in Russia, just NATO weapons are off the table.

Belgorod has been hit a couple of times and there seem to be a lot of mysterious fires and explosions deep inside Russia all over the place

That has to be Special forces deep inside enemy territory.
 
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Its pretty simple.
  • Berlin wall falls - NATO promise I quote "Not One Inch" will we expand eastwards.
  • Lets Welcome Estonia, Latvia and Romania to NATO !!
  • Lets overthrow the elected government of Ukraine in a coup sponsored by the West and install a pro EU administration. Lets also demote the Russian language.
  • Conflicts start in 2014, Russia take Crimea
  • Minsk agreement never honoured. ( who knows who was bombing who, too much misinformation You couldn't rule out Ukraine been the instigator to draw in where we are now, this I don't know )

Oh it seems the U.S have installed a missile defence system in Romania. I'm sure that went down well also.
Defence systems being the key words, You think NATO is stupid, they know Putin is a warmongering megalomaniac.

Proved right, now Putin has nowhere else to go, Ukraine will be his last try at bringing back the old USSR.

Hes failed miserably and cost his country the severest of consequences.

Lets see where their economy is an a few months.

Time to go home sity and fight for the motherland, or are you just a coward hiding behind the keyboard?
 
I've not watched the video but yes it's clear that Russia isn't entirely without teeth, though a lot of their advantages to date have lied in superior numbers, and epic stockpiles of equipment that must be dwindling a bit.

The thing that strikes me is that Russia should be stronger than it is, if the US was in their place, Ukraine would probably have lost in a week or so (maybe less), shock and awe would have seized the day.

Instead Russia are treating it like it's WW2 and didn't really push their strategic advantages, in essence they were too cautious and ill-prepared.
 
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I don't know if they can mobilise anymore than they are doing, They really are all in right now how much more can they do?
Full mobilisation isn't just about getting people to join the army, it's about shifting your economy into a war mode. I.E vehicle manufacturers switching to building planes/tanks. Textile plants making uniforms or switching to ammunition production. Etc. How well that would go this century when everything is more advanced is questionable ofc.


The thing that strikes me is that Russia should be stronger than it is, if the US was in their place, Ukraine would probably have lost in a week or so (maybe less), shock and awe would have seized the day.
While I'm sure that the USA would have done much better in their shoes, a big factor would also be that the USA wouldn't have been stupid enough to try.

The USA haven't gone to war by themselves since 1989 (Panama), and they would absolutely have not gone solo against a country with the defensive capability of Ukraine. But as it's an imaginary scenario lets say the USA invaded Ukraine from Poland (and Poland were somehow okay with this), that would have resulted in Russia/Belarus aiding Ukraine and the results in the first few weeks would have been pretty much the same, although I do believe that Ukraine would have had no choice but to surrender within a couple of months as the USA would simply have more reserve air/ground forces to bring in than Russia did.

Of course that scenario requires Poland being okay with the USA invading a sovereign nation from their territory, Turkey being okay with US warships entering the black sea (and Russia not opposing this) and nobody sanctioning the USA. So I think the biggest thing we've seen from this conflict is that it's pretty hard for anyone to conquer a well armed nation if everyone else is against you.
 
Maybe not but I don't think Israel needs much of an excuse for to hit Iran

Its also indirectly helping Ukraine, something they have so far kept out of.
 
Wonder what tickled Israel about these locations though? It has to be at least somewhat related to stopping arms getting to Palestine or possibly Yemen to help Riyadh without getting directly involved. If it's just to slow down shipments to Russia then that's gonna cause a stinky.
 
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Wonder what tickled Israel about these locations though? It has to be at least somewhat related to stopping arms getting to Palestine or possibly Yemen to help Riyadh without getting directly involved. If it's just to slow down shipments to Russia then that's gonna cause a stinky.

Could be Bibi needed to throw some red meat to the more extreme elements keeping him in power. They generally don't provide reasons through. The Israelis are very good at being unpredictable, which keeps Iran, Hezbollah etc on their toes.
 
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