Yeah, in that case you're right. Russian troops are still flooding into Belarus every single day (this is from my girlfriend's relatives who are actually there)
Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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I think that's just lukashenko, he's bloody crazy and like Putin, uses the west as an enemy to galvanize support at home, the fact he had to shoot and imprison thousand's after thier last genuine election shows that they don't all believe the evil west narrative he and Putin pedal.
I think you know well enough how such a war could spiral.
Do you think there's some misunderstanding about what could happen in a war between Russia and NATO? People aren't going to accidentally walk into a nuclear war, everyone is very aware of the consequences, so no, things won't just "spiral".
let’s just hope no one sees a flock of birds and mistakes it for a something it isn’t eh?
That's a lot of faith in the current crop of malcontents we call 'leaders' in the West.
I love how humans always think we have things under control. All the times we got it wrong before don't matter.
We are smarter than those who came before us so we know what we are doing this time.
(Of course, that is probably the same mindset of those who got it wrong before)
We are smarter than those who came before us so we know what we are doing this time.
(Of course, that is probably the same mindset of those who got it wrong before)
The US doesn't like it because the majority of gas for the EU comes through the Nord1 and then the Nord 2 pipeline. Russian then has the on-off switch to the EU states power. US depends on the EU states to hold up NATO in those countries. Also Russia can apply pressure to reduce the NATO commitment and weaken it.
The US also wants to supply liquefied gas and thus is a competitor to the Russian gas pipeline.
France wants the EU to be able to sit on it's own two feet and not depend on US or China/Russia and not be bound by the rules in order to deal with either.
The issue is that Russia, or more correctly Putin, will use the pipeline as a weapon.
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Spiral into nuclear war? No, probably not. But if a Russia kicks off a fullscale military conflict in Ukraine, it's likely that this will lead to conventional military conflicts with NATO countries and likely the UK.
No it isn't, we don't have any troops there, why do you think that would happen?
Do you think Western leaders are worse than other leaders?
Because conflicts rarely stay within their borders, and because Europe isn't simply going to sit back and let Putin willywave in Ukraine. There's going to be escalation, and if Putin really is far enough gone that he'd actually invade Ukraine then assumptions of rationality on his path are going to prove ill-judged.
Well actually that's exactly what the majority of Europe would do. No one is going to escalate anything outside of Ukraine, Kyiv is miles away from Western Europe
Not going to deliver in the next couple of months, but should give UK some autonomy for gas supplies - Greta won't be pleased but wth, we need an economy.
https://www.energyvoice.com/oilandg...portedly-being-fast-tracked-by-uk-government/
https://www.energyvoice.com/oilandg...portedly-being-fast-tracked-by-uk-government/
Probably related to Ukraine - got aircraft out flying submarine detection around the UK again today as well as a heightened amount of military air traffic - bunch of Typhoons and F15s up.
Doesn't look like Macron has accomplished much - seems that bunch of landing ships are still heading into the Black Sea and an increased amount of talk of call ups/troop movement in Russia today.
Doesn't look like Macron has accomplished much - seems that bunch of landing ships are still heading into the Black Sea and an increased amount of talk of call ups/troop movement in Russia today.
Kyiv may be a "miles away from Western Europe", but Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, and Romania share borders with Ukraine. Finland borders Russia, as do Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania (via the Kalingrad Oblast). Europe is not merely Western Europe, and Western European troops are being deployed all along those borders anyway. Oh, and of those countries, only Finland isn't NATO.
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It was pretty obvious from the press photo that nothing would be accomplished and it was likely just Vladimir humouring Emmanuel or trolling
Nato, as Kratos would say to his son Atreus in God of War, you are not ready.
Russia isn't gearing up to take on NATO, though I might be concerned if this went through another couple of iterations. They've positioned some token forces to disincentivize NATO involvement but the composition of what is going around on social media is geared up for action against the likes of Ukraine not taking on the West.
On another note if you'd been in a coma the last 2 years and woke up and the first thing you saw was something like this:
You'd wonder just what on earth had happened while you were out.
Poor Norway, always forgotten about.
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