Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

[Tony habergham]

Todays ISW bulletin: Institute for the study of War 23/02/23

'The Kremlin appears to be setting conditions for false flag operations on the Chernihiv Oblast international border' [Against Belarus]

 

[Freakbro]

In what way do you mean? Do you mean give him a way to de-escalate without losing face?

Yeah, that's what it means

 

[Scougar]

I wonder if China is trying to provide Putin with an off ramp?

If they get out of Ukraine, awesome. Even if it is a fake off just to save face.

I would be stunned if they gave up Crimea/Sevastopol.

In what way do you mean? Do you mean give him a way to de-escalate without losing face?

Saw this after I posted. Immediate same thought.

 

[Goodie]

No. It would be like clapping for the NHS, completely pointless when they need real help.

I enjoyed my weekly claps thank you very much. I had enough by the end of things to buy an oversized tv and a corner sofa with enough left over to buy the weeks groceries.

 

[GGizmo]

Putin should go back to doing what he did just prior to the invasion, and allow citizenship/passports to people living in the Donbass region.

During his pulling back, to end the war.

 

[robgmun]

Yeah, that's what it means

This was what I was thinking when talking about an off-ramp for Putin

 

[Freakbro]

^ I think we'd all prefer that type for Putin!

Added style points for a window being involved

 

[Szydero]

Putin should go back to doing what he did just prior to the invasion, and allow citizenship/passports to people living in the Donbass region.

During his pulling back, to end the war.

I can't imagine them pulling out from Ukraine, mentality of ruski's are still back 100-200 years ago.

 

[GGizmo]

I can't imagine them pulling out from Ukraine, mentality of ruski's are still back 100-200 years ago.

I'm generalising here. In my experience Russians are tough and can be pushy. But if you snap back at them they will back off.

I think this is why Zelensky wants more fire power, as this drip feeding won't work, unless a distraction happens in Russia.

 

[Stretch]

Todays ISW bulletin: Institute for the study of War 23/02/23

'The Kremlin appears to be setting conditions for false flag operations on the Chernihiv Oblast international border' [Against Belarus]

Didn’t Belarus recently say they would join the war if attacked?

 

[Scougar]

*White House: US Marks Anniversary of Ukraine War With Sanctions Against 200 Individuals and Entities and a Dozen Russian Financial Institutions
*White House: US Announces Export Control Measures Against Nearly 90 Russian and Third-Country Companies That Support Russia’s Defense Sector
*White House: U.S. Plans to Give Moldova $300 Million in Aid to Strengthen Moldovan Energy Security, Draft Documents Say
*White House: U.S. Plans to Announce $250 Million in Aid for Ukraine Energy Infrastructure, Draft Documents Say
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...-support-ukraine-and-hold-russia-accountable/

*DoD: US Announces $2 Billion in Security Aid to Ukraine
https://www.defense.gov/News/Releas...s-additional-security-assistance-for-ukraine/

As a legal services firm we have we have to keep on top of these sanctions. There is a whole process and ruleset that needs to be followed so they are unable to do business with our Fortune 500 clients.

 

[Scougar]

Didn’t Belarus recently say they would join the war if attacked?

Isn't that like calling water wet?

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

Didn’t Belarus recently say they would join the war if attacked?

Yep

 

[Stretch]

I'm generalising here. In my experience Russians are tough and can be pushy. But if you snap back at them they will back off.

I think this is why Zelensky wants more fire power, as this drip feeding won't work, unless a distraction happens in Russia.

Agreed. The drip feeding plays right into the Russian long game.

Ukraine will run out of man power, the west will run out of good will. The only way forward in a massive supply of weaponry that pushes Russia back across the boarded in the next 18 months and there is enough defensive weaponry available to keep them there.

 

[Stretch]

Yep

I wonder if they knew the Russias were going to do that for Ukraine.

 

[Stretch]

Isn't that like calling water wet?

If you take the statement in isolation it’s as good as them saying they aren’t joining the war. Because Ukraine isn’t going to attack.

 

[Stretch]

It raises an interesting question. If Belarus joins the war could NATO or NATO members justifiably perform air strikes in Belarus.

They aren’t Russia and they don’t have nuclear weapons.

 

[Uther]

If you take the statement in isolation it’s as good as them saying they aren’t joining the war. Because Ukraine isn’t going to attack.

I reckon they will attack. Well Russians in Ukranian uniforms will.

 

[ljt]

It raises an interesting question. If Belarus joins the war could NATO or NATO members justifiably perform air strikes in Belarus.

They aren’t Russia and they don’t have nuclear weapons.

I doubt they would as it isn't an attack on a NATO member as such.

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

I reckon they will attack. Well Russians in Ukranian uniforms will.

Yep one of :
- Belarus have agreed to join and need the excuse
- Belrus havent agreed to join but Russia think they can be convincing enough to make it look like Ukraine attacked