Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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bingham67 said:
I think planned withdrawal from Bakhmut is happening or not very far off now.

Not bad 7 months of holding out.
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Interesting tactics from the Russian forces the last couple of weeks - suggests they understand the nature of the ground west of Bakhmut and how Ukraine could use it to turn the city into a kill ground if Russia push them out, so trying to nullify that before advancing.

Not that anyone would be surprised but Jake Sullivan has somewhat let the cat out the bag when it comes to Ukraine's upcoming offensive whereas before it was neither confirmed or denied.
 
bingham67 said:

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Yikes, that's potentially going to be rather worrying over the next few days.

I guess the Ukrainian counteroffensive is presumably scheduled for some weeks away though, would be nice if they had a division or even a brigade spare to break through in the event the Russians do encircle the city. Just gotta hope they're able to hold out until the offensive starts unless of course they do manage to withdraw (which could be very risky in itself).
 
Rroff said:
Interesting tactics from the Russian forces the last couple of weeks - suggests they understand the nature of the ground west of Bakhmut and how Ukraine could use it to turn the city into a kill ground if Russia push them out, so trying to nullify that before advancing.
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To be fair why wouldn't they understand something basic re: the nature of the ground... lots of the individual Russian troops might be dumb/inexperienced and indeed some commanders on the ground but certainly not all of them. If internet armchair generals are aware of something you can likely assume Russian commanders at a higher level are too.
 
dowie said:
Yikes, that's potentially going to be rather worrying over the next few days.

I guess the Ukrainian counteroffensive is presumably scheduled for some weeks away though, would be nice if they had a division or even a brigade spare to break through in the event the Russians do encircle the city. Just gotta hope they're able to hold out until the offensive starts unless of course they do manage to withdraw (which could be very risky in itself).
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Oh crap. This isn't good news. Hope this can be reversed ASAP.
 
Scougar said:
250 million jobs? Are they even that many people working in the US? Lol. I don't believe that figure at all..not for a second.
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Raised my eyebrows when reading it. EDIT: Not sure where the 250 million comes from - Googling it suggests something different to what I was thinking.

The numbers I could find from a quick Google are ~75,000 direct job losses and 40,000 indirect.
 
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dowie said:
To be fair why wouldn't they understand something basic re: the nature of the ground... lots of the individual Russian troops might be dumb/inexperienced and indeed some commanders on the ground but certainly not all of them. If internet armchair generals are aware of something you can likely assume Russian commanders at a higher level are too.
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A lot of Russian tactics so far have been going straight at it, even Bakhmut until fairly recently, though at a more overall level they do like encirclement. This doesn't seem to be just a case of forced to adopt different tactics or deciding to try and flank - there is method to the directions involved vs Ukraine's likely fallback tactics.

Second order thinking hasn't been something which has exactly marked Russian strategy so far.
 
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Scougar said:
250 million jobs? Are they even that many people working in the US? Lol. I don't believe that figure at all..not for a second.
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People will just make up things up or pass on "facts" they've misremembered or just heard and believed at face value elsewhere when it comes to the orange guy, while he's a bad President he knows what a tariff is and he's not cost 250 million jobs. Anyway, it's probs not worth dwelling on as it's rather off-topic.
 
Rroff said:
A lot of Russian tactics so far have been going straight at it, even Bakhmut until fairly recently, though at a more overall level they do like encirclement. This doesn't seem to be just a case of forced to adopt different tactics or deciding to try and flank - there is method to the directions involved vs Ukraine's likely fallback tactics.

Second order thinking hasn't been something which has exactly marked Russian strategy so far.
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But there are obvious reasons for that, different motivations and internal issues re: Wagner and their convict army etc. again that they're using human wave attacks or being callous doesn't negate that they'd be aware of something obvious to internet armchair generals.
 
Blueball said:
You replied to:

'American chips, Russian chips, all made in Taiwan!'
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I Yup'd that comment, but then I went on to talk about China's move into making the West depending on cheap manufacturing (and how that will eventually cause us major issues). I didn't confuse the two, but sorry that I didn't make that distinction clearer regarding the slightly different topics :)
 
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Scougar said:
250 million jobs? Are they even that many people working in the US? Lol. I don't believe that figure at all..not for a second.
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Sorry, I meant 250,000. :p

A new study from the Federal Reserve found that President Trump’s tariffs are backfiring.

According to the Fed study, the tariffs that went into effect in 2018 have led to not only higher producer prices but also a loss of jobs across the U.S. — particularly in manufacturing. A previous analysis also found that tariffs have cost the U.S. $42 billion so far.

“In terms of manufacturing employment, rising input costs and retaliatory tariffs each contribute to the negative relationship, and the contribution from these channels more than offsets a small positive effect from import protection,” the new Fed study stated.

“For producer prices, the relative increases associated with tariffs are due solely to the rising input cost channel. We find little evidence for a relationship between industrial production and any of the three tariff channels considered.”
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(Source).

See also: 'Backfire Economics – Trump’s Tariffs Are Hurting US Farmers and Workers and Putting the Entire Economy at Risk.'
 
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