Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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So how long would it take at 360feet to locate the pipe and set the explosives properly ? Is visibility an issue in the sea at that depth ?
I think the pipe is in Baltic Sea. I’m sure the vis there is quite good but that can be subjective. If the cos is good should be easy to see when down. If the skipper uses gps and drops a line with heavy weight which heads straight down they should be able to get it very close. They could also have the fish finders which scans down and you can see the outline of wrecks etc. if the pipe stands up out of the floor could be found with this too.
 
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I think the pipe is in Baltic Sea. I’m sure the vis there is quite good but that can be subjective. If the cos is good should be easy to see when down. If the skipper uses gps and drops a line with heavy weight which heads straight down they should be able to get it very close. They could also have the fish finders which scans down and you can see the outline of wrecks etc. if the pipe stands up out of the floor could be found with this too.
Or do what some of our less technical dive boat skippers do, drop the anchor in front and drag it til it grabs hold of what you are looking for :rolleyes: :D
 
Mud
They dont want to replicate what Russia did last year
This, any attempt at a fast moving major offensive at this time of the year will get quickly bogged down in the mud. There are some videos floating around of the formally dirt roads into Bakhmut, they are just giant mud pits nearly impassable to most vehicles.

I would hazard a guess that the mud is also what is keeping the Ukrainians in Bakhmut. It's stopping them from being able to withdraw the majority of their forces in a way that doesn't turn into them being caught out in open, stuck in the mud and being perfect artillery targets. Keeping their men in the city, even in disadvantageous position, is safer for them than having a withdrawal become a rout.
 
This, any attempt at a fast moving major offensive at this time of the year will get quickly bogged down in the mud. There are some videos floating around of the formally dirt roads into Bakhmut, they are just giant mud pits nearly impassable to most vehicles.

I would hazard a guess that the mud is also what is keeping the Ukrainians in Bakhmut. It's stopping them from being able to withdraw the majority of their forces in a way that doesn't turn into them being caught out in open, stuck in the mud and being perfect artillery targets. Keeping their men in the city, even in disadvantageous position, is safer for them than having a withdrawal become a rout.

They need some assault hovercraft.
 
Interesting analysis, don't know how robust it is though.

For Russia it is about essentially brawling through - lasting out even at cost until, as mentioned in the article, they can train up officers, build/recondition equipment, etc. etc. they won't care if it means expending 1000s of men for the longer term goal. Whether realistic or not is another matter. This is why it is important really for Ukraine to have the capability to get these forces on the back foot, hopefully force them to leave of their own accord, now before Russia even has a chance to grow into this war - as Putin does not seem to have any intentions of backing down even if it means gutting Russia to do so.
 
Maybe the sad reality is that they dont "count" lesser citizens, those from the eastern regions, fighters sent from prisons or Wagner grunts. Maybe 15000 is the lives that are accountable, with Families in the western Russia, with social standing and a voice. Lives that Putins Government cant just get away with forgetting.
Or I'm just looking into it too much and 15000 is just a number that they have plucked out of their ****. "Not great, Not terrible...".
Cant see that tbh, this war started with real proper Russian regulars, everything from elite units to regular troops. 190k of them started this war with thousands of armoured vehicles of all types, not including the tik tok Chechens who can only talk a good game.

They have been thinned out at an incredible rate, so many of them that they have had to keep going back and forcing their citizens to fight time and time again.

Maybe you're right, maybe life is counted if you're a pure bred Russian but the fact remains you can times their figure by ten not including the wounded.

The state media are tightly controlled, even one wrong word and your off to the gulag for 15 years, its a scary prospect for Russians right now who oppose the war.

The first Wagner were wiped out too but they certainly wont be counted as they were mostly foreigners and now convicts tens of thousand of them, just thrown into a meat grinder, we will probably never know how many have died in Bakhmut alone.

What we don't really hear is the Ukranian losses, its said to be as many as 100k not including the civillians who could be just as much.

Its pretty much Hitler all over again, Im surprised the UN hasn't stepped in with those blue helmet dudes, the war crimes are well documented mass graves of civilian's found all over the liberated territories, the UN should be policing this with boots on the ground.
 
Im surprised the UN hasn't stepped in with those blue helmet dudes, the war crimes are well documented mass graves of civilian's found all over the liberated territories, the UN should be policing this with boots on the ground.

Those blue guys are decorative and are invited in to stand around by the countries involved.

They see a village being herded out into a field and shot, rules are they just watch and make a note of it.
 
Cant see that tbh, this war started with real proper Russian regulars, everything from elite units to regular troops. 190k of them started this war with thousands of armoured vehicles of all types, not including the tik tok Chechens who can only talk a good game.

People seem to have quickly forgotten all the out of band new drafts, etc. Russia did leading up to the war - there was videos of thousands of essentially conscripts boarding trains in Dagestan, etc. who were sent into Ukraine with only like 3 weeks training. Though they've dipped into many of their elite forces and more experienced battalions and regiments, they've not drawn from the run of the mill regular forces anything like as much as people seem to believe - even riot police were being sent in as light infantry. Large amounts of equipment used for the initial invasion was reactivated between 2017 and late 2021 as well rather than drawing from the active stock - approx. half the helis used for the initial assault were basically mothballed in the 70s and put back into use without any modernisation for this war (hence some just straight up crashed or failed without even being shot down).
 
Those blue guys are decorative and are invited in to stand around by the countries involved.

They see a village being herded out into a field and shot, rules are they just watch and make a note of it.

The other problem is, who makes up the UN forces? UK, US, Australia, France etc all big contributors in the past, but never acceptable to Russia. African states? (big affiliation with China these days, not enough troops, not enough experience / organisation). China? - n ope big affiliation with Russia. Turkey? - enough issues of it's own, not sure of allegiences.

UN should have gone in, in the early days of Russia arming and funding the seperatists. As soon as Russia took Crimea, it was too late. But the UN is gutless these days and as it's shown the security council is completely frozen with it's currently setup of 1 member veto, especially when those members include Russia and China (and the US on Israeli issues).
 
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The other problem is, who makes up the UN forces? UK, US, Australia, France etc all big contributors in the past, but never acceptable to Russia. African states? (big affiliation with China these days, not enough troops, not enough experience / organisation). China? - n ope big affiliation with Russia. Turkey? - enough issues of it's own, not sure of allegiences.

UN should have gone in, in the early days of Russia arming and funding the seperatists. As soon as Russia took Crimea, it was too late. But the UN is gutless these days and as it's shown the security council is completely frozen with it's currently setup of 1 member veto, especially when those members include Russia and China (and the US on Israeli issues).

The UN has no balls whatsoever.

The UN had a vote and decided the Chagosian Archipelago should be given to Mauritius.

The owners said **** off and so did their best friend.

So the UN decided to make all stamps issued in the Chagosian Archipelago illegal so now to send mail internationally they have to use Mauritius stamps. Absolutely devastating.

We are the owners and we rent it out to the US who built a large base on it after we booted out ~1600 natives to make sure it was nice and empty.

That's how useful the UN is, if you can't be bullied you don't need to care.
 
Russia continues to run up 10s of billions in budget deficits every single month

At this rate the Russian government will be bankrupt next year if they don't drastically cut costs. It's a good thing the West seized $600billion in foreign reserve assets at the start of the war otherwise even at this rate of budget deficits they'd be able to keep up appearances for an extra 2-3 years

If they can't access the debt market how are they paying for stuff? Are they printing money?
 
Russia continues to run up 10s of billions in budget deficits every single month

At this rate the Russian government will be bankrupt next year if they don't drastically cut costs. It's a good thing the West seized $600billion in foreign reserve assets at the start of the war otherwise even at this rate of budget deficits they'd be able to keep up appearances for an extra 2-3 years

Meanwhile, Putin continues to expand military spending. The budget for this year is $84 billion, and it is predicted that by 2025 he will have spent $600 billion on military and security since 2022. That's an extraordinary amount of money for an economy that's already brittle.

If they can't access the debt market how are they paying for stuff? Are they printing money?

Yes and no.

Russia last year saw a budget deficit of 3.3 trillion rubles ($43.6 billion), or 2.3% of GDP. This year, the Finance Ministry is planning for a deficit of 2% of GDP (2.9 trillion rubles) — but economists are doubtful that it can be achieved. Instead, they predict the deficit will come in at somewhere between 3.1 trillion and 6.9 trillion rubles.

The authorities will close that hole by borrowing on the domestic market. The Finance Ministry is already issuing bonds, which are redeemed by the banks using money from the Central Bank. This looks a bit like new money and some economists suspect the Central Bank of printing money. We explain whether this is really happening — and the risks.

(Source).
 
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