Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Videos of "Polish Volunteer Corps" also having entered Bilhorod Oblast on 22 May are now posted.
Ouch :)
After visiting there last year, the Polish are "itching" to get involved (outside of the arms / money and humanitarian support).

You could feel it.
 
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As far as I'm concerned Russia already attacked the UK in Salisbury using a biological weapon. We just gave them a few stern words back then though.Ignoring Russias thuggery over the years is why we are where we are now IMO.
As well as the assassination of Litvinenko in 2006 on British soil using a radiological weapon, along with numerous other suspicious assassinations of dissident political opponents of Putin.
 
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It seems not is all sweetness and light in Ukraine. I do get the impression that Zelensky, for all his attributes, doesn't take even veiled criticism well.
The man is trying to delivery on the anti corruption platform that got him elected at the same time as waging a bloody struggle for survival.
With the anti corruption this is always going to be difficult especially in a country where it has been so rife. There will be a lot of people in places of influence who are either accustomed to a certain way of life and a certain way of working, also he has to worry about the ones "bought" by unfriendly parties...
People will also be finding that action/inaction now has consequence.
Enemies this will make!

What is good to see is that Zelenskyy dosnt hang about dealing with this stuff. It has been seen in the past he ensures that the situation is dealt with and all parties at fault are dealt with harshly.

Ukrainians cant afford to be squabbling between themselves, they have much more pressing issues at hand!
 
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The man is trying to delivery on the anti corruption platform that got him elected at the same time as waging a bloody struggle for survival.
With the anti corruption this is always going to be difficult especially in a country where it has been so rife. There will be a lot of people in places of influence who are either accustomed to a certain way of life and a certain way of working, also he has to worry about the ones "bought" by unfriendly parties...
People will also be finding that action/inaction now has consequence.
Enemies this will make!

What is good to see is that Zelenskyy dosnt hang about dealing with this stuff. It has been seen in the past he ensures that the situation is dealt with and all parties at fault are dealt with harshly.

Ukrainians cant afford to be squabbling between themselves, they have much more pressing issues at hand!
Well, I hope he gets things sorted...

Sky news:
''Continuing our coverage of Volodymyr Zelenskyy's bomb shelter audit, nearly half of those inspected in Kyiv were found to be closed or unfit for use - 17 months into the war.

Ukraine's minister of strategic industries Oleksandr Kamyshin expressed "disbelief".

She said that out of 1,078 shelters examined yesterday, 359 were unprepared and another 122 locked, while 597 were usable.''
 
So now there is a new meme. How do you destroy a Russian city? Easy, send a 100 poorly equipped green men into the city, occupy it for a day and the Russian military will show up and bomb the city to ash. Then move the green men to the next city, rinse and repeat
I couldn't help but be reminded from this about the two flags incident in the early months of the war, for those not in the thread at this time it went like so:
  1. Four Russian tanks enter a Ukrainian village, the villagers watch carefully from a distance.
  2. The Russians transfer all the remaining fuel from two of the tanks into the other two, then pile into/onto those and leave, leaving the two empty tanks in the village.
  3. The Villagers plant Ukrainian flags on the two empty tanks.
  4. The other two Russian tanks return with fuel, they see the two "Ukrainian" tanks and open fire destroying them both.
  5. The remaining Russian tanks then drive around searching for their other two tanks.
  6. One of them drives onto a bridge with a five ton weight limit and the bridge collapses, the tank falls into the river below and they all die.
  7. The last tank keeps driving around, gets lost, and finally gets stuck in a ditch.
  8. The Russians then abandon their last tank and walk off.
Russian training at it's best :p
 
Seeing these coming from multiple sources and from different original information:

Apparently the Kremlin is going hard on trying to drive from behind the scenes a "peace initiative" using stuff like "movement for peace in Ukraine" because they need time to reconstitute their forces, mobilise more manpower and rebuild supplies of weapons and ammo. (So expect a surge of bots and useful idiots banging that drum).

Meduza reports and similar reporting suggesting that around half the population of Russia is coalescing around the perspective of "Russia can't lose" whether they originally supported the war or not - I suspect this is being driven like Brexit by manipulation of the population etc. and I suspect something which actually is the perspective, regardless of how they came to it, of around half the population rather than that being propaganda generated for external purposes.
 
Seeing these coming from multiple sources and from different original information:

Apparently the Kremlin is going hard on trying to drive from behind the scenes a "peace initiative" using stuff like "movement for peace in Ukraine" because they need time to reconstitute their forces, mobilise more manpower and rebuild supplies of weapons and ammo. (So expect a surge of bots and useful idiots banging that drum).

Meduza reports and similar reporting suggesting that around half the population of Russia is coalescing around the perspective of "Russia can't lose" whether they originally supported the war or not - I suspect this is being driven like Brexit by manipulation of the population etc. and I suspect something which actually is the perspective, regardless of how they came to it, of around half the population rather than that being propaganda generated for external purposes.

Sadly there is no shortage of those.
 
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I'm not sure if it's been posted here, but the BBC has an article on how many people have left Russia, and it doesn't look good for Putin and co, apparently Russia's largest private bank estimates around 1.5% of the workforce, many with the skills that Russia desperately needs to help with the war effort (techs, IT and mechanics), and the sort of skills that are taken for granted in the cities.
They also pulled out more money from the Russian economy early in the war than had been done since the banking crisis in 2008.
 
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I'm not sure if it's been posted here, but the BBC has an article on how many people have left Russia, and it doesn't look good for Putin and co, apparently Russia's largest private bank estimates around 1.5% of the workforce, many with the skills that Russia desperately needs to help with the war effort (techs, IT and mechanics), and the sort of skills that are taken for granted in the cities.
They also pulled out more money from the Russian economy early in the war than had been done since the banking crisis in 2008.
I think anyone with sense, who could, would have got out.
 
I'm not sure if it's been posted here, but the BBC has an article on how many people have left Russia, and it doesn't look good for Putin and co, apparently Russia's largest private bank estimates around 1.5% of the workforce, many with the skills that Russia desperately needs to help with the war effort (techs, IT and mechanics), and the sort of skills that are taken for granted in the cities.
They also pulled out more money from the Russian economy early in the war than had been done since the banking crisis in 2008.

I was surprised how little they did to stop anyone leaving the country in the earlier days - 100s of thousands of people of prime military age and/or with specialist skills simply left for Georgia, etc. could ascribe a more sinister intent there but I don't think it is the case.
 
I think it was basically that they didn't think it would last long, and given it seems that even many of the units knew they were going to be involved in an invasion I suspect it either never crossed anyones mind to give the order to stop civilians leaving the country, or they didn't consider it was of high enough importance given that such a move could have alerted Ukraine, or caused more unrest with the civilian population at home.
 
Go build yourself a little bunker under your stairs to cower in :rolleyes: Thank god people like you aren't in charge, we'd be a Russian vassal by now.

Did you vote for Jeremy Corbyn? I know I didn't. I made posts around the fact that his opposition to the UK having nuclear weapons was stupid and he couldn't be in charge. So, if people like you were in charge you'd leave the UK toothless and then expect our non-existant military to go do the fighting while you sat at home because, let's be honest, you're in no physical shape to do any sort of combat and out of me and you, I'd be far more equipped and willing to fight for my country.

The only thing you're good at doing is asking other people to fight for you, because you're actually scared that Russia could be a threat to you one day. Where as I actually care about the soldiers on the front lines, not because I'm scared for myself.
 
Did you vote for Jeremy Corbyn? I know I didn't. I made posts around the fact that his opposition to the UK having nuclear weapons was stupid and he couldn't be in charge. So, if people like you were in charge you'd leave the UK toothless and then expect our non-existant military to go do the fighting while you sat at home because, let's be honest, you're in no physical shape to do any sort of combat and out of me and you, I'd be far more equipped and willing to fight for my country.

The only thing you're good at doing is asking other people to fight for you, because you're actually scared that Russia could be a threat to you one day. Where as I actually care about the soldiers on the front lines, not because I'm scared for myself.
Are these the new Russian peace movement notes you've been given ? About how much you just really care about soldiers now all of a sudden ?
 
Genius take there, guess you're fine with NATO weapons killing civilians.
Absolute nonsense.

The big difference is Russian missiles have been deliberately targeting residential areas, we all know that them killing civilians was deliberate.

Ukraine is attacking legit military targets, some civilians, very few, may get caught up in that but they are not targeted deliberately.
 
Did you vote for Jeremy Corbyn? I know I didn't. I made posts around the fact that his opposition to the UK having nuclear weapons was stupid and he couldn't be in charge. So, if people like you were in charge you'd leave the UK toothless and then expect our non-existant military to go do the fighting while you sat at home because, let's be honest, you're in no physical shape to do any sort of combat and out of me and you, I'd be far more equipped and willing to fight for my country.

The only thing you're good at doing is asking other people to fight for you, because you're actually scared that Russia could be a threat to you one day. Where as I actually care about the soldiers on the front lines, not because I'm scared for myself.

Are you seriously comparing who would be hardest in an imaginary world?

When was the last time you violently laid hands on another man?
 
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