Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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nsmalley said:
Unconfirmed.. There so much fog of war atm I don't take tweets at face value.
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Novo dorivka was recaptured and has had counter attacks to take it back (which were replled). This isnt WW1 where dragons teeth and ditches might have been sueful - WW2 proved that not to be the case where combat engineers proved their mettle.
 
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Firestar_3x said:
Which is just as unconfirmed as your information.
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Point is, there's a long way to go and Russia has had time to build the most extensive fortifications since WW2 . As much as we may wish it there's a long way to go and as tempting as it is to believe reports that match our world view rationality says we have to wait and see.
 
Wondering if the real purpose for pulling Wagner out of Bahkmut, was so they could really be used as reserves against a counter attack wherever that happened. All the talk going back and forth, you have to wonder if it's all just propaganda from Prig.
 
Scougar said:
Wondering if the real purpose for pulling Wagner out of Bahkmut, was so they could really be used as reserves against a counter attack wherever that happened. All the talk going back and forth, you have to wonder if it's all just propaganda from Prig.
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They would suit an urgent plug the gap at any cost type throw some troops to their death if it slows down an advance scenario.

However despite that suitability its a massive front line to hold, if/when breaches start to occur there is no guarantee the Ukrainians will rush to exploit that one, but the Russians will need to assume they will and rush troops to that breach.
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
They would suit an urgent plug the gap at any cost type throw some troops to their death if it slows down an advance scenario.

However despite that suitability its a massive front line to hold, if/when breaches start to occur there is no guarantee the Ukrainians will rush to exploit that one, but the Russians will need to assume they will and rush troops to that breach.
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This complicates things as far as Russia/Wagner is concerned https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...act-with-russian-defence-minister-2023-06-11/
 
Scougar said:
Wondering if the real purpose for pulling Wagner out of Bahkmut, was so they could really be used as reserves against a counter attack wherever that happened. All the talk going back and forth, you have to wonder if it's all just propaganda from Prig.
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Wagner need to get back to Moscow for the coup.
 
Scougar said:
Wondering if the real purpose for pulling Wagner out of Bahkmut, was so they could really be used as reserves against a counter attack wherever that happened. All the talk going back and forth, you have to wonder if it's all just propaganda from Prig.
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They pulled out because it was an unwinnable meat grinder and still is.

Prigozhin knew that and wasn't going to be seen as a loser, to much to lose. His private army is his reputation

I have no idea where they are now, liking their wounds somewhere?

Nor do we even know how many men he now has. he got 50k from prisons, 30k were killed the other 20k's contracts were supposedly up, would they stick around after watching 30 thousand of them being slaughtered? Hard core convicts aren't exactly reliable

So for now there isn't any information on what Wagner troops are doing or how many there is left, all we do know is that Prigozhin has refused to sign them up to the Russian military.
 
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Sankari said:
Oh dear.


/facepalm
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The guy reacting on twitter is misunderstanding what he's reading, the fact Chernobyl is in quotations is because it's being referenced as the event not the physical complex/location.

I.E Afghanistan is commonly referred to as the USSR's 'Vietnam' because the events and their results were so similar.

What the article is doing is comparing how the dam failure and it's repercussions could affect Ukraine in a similar way to how the Chernobyl disaster affected the USSR. The fact the Chernobyl disaster took place in what is now the country of Ukraine is not the zinger he thinks it is.
 
Reminder that within the first three days of this war, Russia had launched 160 cruise and ballistic missiles at Ukraine. The US had launched over 1000 within the same time frame during desert storm
 
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