Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Latest reports seem to suggest at least 10 TU-95s with fighter escort and/or other fighters or bombers also with missiles. As touched on above though these strikes are really kind of pathetic - even small scale Western ones have been like 80 missiles.
I suspect this air strikes as more about getting news agenda away from the Ukrainian counter offensive then any real tactical or strategic importance.
 
If Putin thought, sod it and tach nuked all the supplied kit, how would the west respond?

With the line crossed would anyone really risk escalating to all out nuclear war, if he used a tach weapon then surely if backed into a corner he’d go scorched earth.

Didnt Biden already take a nuclear response off the table, as did Macron and boots in Ukraine is also a no no.
 
If Putin thought, sod it and tach nuked all the supplied kit, how would the west respond?

With the line crossed would anyone really risk escalating to all out nuclear war, if he used a tach weapon then surely if backed into a corner he’d go scorched earth.

Didnt Biden already take a nuclear response off the table, as did Macron and boots in Ukraine is also a no no.

It is an interesting question.

IMO there is a fairly high chance in that situation the US would attempt to headshot the Russian government but that is rolling the dice on WW3/MAD if it doesn't succeed. The US has given Russia some fairly blunt reminders as to the consequences of the use of nuclear weapons but how much is bite vs bark and/or what they'd actually do in that situation is another question.
 
It is an interesting question.

IMO there is a fairly high chance in that situation the US would attempt to headshot the Russian government but that is rolling the dice on WW3/MAD if it doesn't succeed. The US has given Russia some fairly blunt reminders as to the consequences of the use of nuclear weapons but how much is bite vs bark and/or what they'd actually do in that situation is another question.

Exactly, more sanctions.

There was some US military guy on LBC at the weekend who said it’s likely he will, he’s placed three generals who control the nuclear arsenal in charge of three divisions who now directly report to him, the guy explained this effectively gives him direct access to order the strikes, would they initiate the order is another question.

EDIT: he also said it’s dependent on how successful the counter offensive is.
 
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It is an interesting question.

IMO there is a fairly high chance in that situation the US would attempt to headshot the Russian government but that is rolling the dice on WW3/MAD if it doesn't succeed. The US has given Russia some fairly blunt reminders as to the consequences of the use of nuclear weapons but how much is bite vs bark and/or what they'd actually do in that situation is another question.

There are so many theoretical situations that could arise to their use

for example I could see a situation where Putin used just one Nuke, to test the US response and then move from there.

I would also understand it if he decided to launch many at once; perhaps their thinking is that any US punishment is worth it if they can quickly escalate and wipe out the Ukranian army - for example if Crimea is under threat and Putin is losing territory from 2014 then maybe he drops a few dozen tactical nukes in one day to wipe out much of Ukraine's equipment and then even if the US responded harshly, for example by sinking the Black Sea fleet, Putin would still feel like he won because he got to keep his territory, Ukraine no longer had an army to use and Putin can go back to conventional war to stabilise his gains. But this sort of strategy requires a lot of planning, preparations and nuance and I'm not convinced that the Russians can do it because they haven't shown such capability


And while I don't think Putin gives a crap, the rest of the world and especially Chinese would be very alarmed if Russia moved to nukes because the Russians would be using nukes for "defence" even if it is fake defence and that straight away opens the door for the US to give Nukes to Taiwan say and let them rip if China attacks because now this strategy is normalised and every country wants nukes
 
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Latest reports seem to suggest at least 10 TU-95s with fighter escort and/or other fighters or bombers also with missiles. As touched on above though these strikes are really kind of pathetic - even small scale Western ones have been like 80 missiles.
I'm not sure why the comparison really?

Yes they are less in number than those at Desert Storm...
 
Yeah. It is.
No it is not, read my post again, I explained quite clearly the misunderstanding he had made.

The dude on twitter misunderstood what the words he was reading meant (possibly due to a language barrier) and replied with something dumb, the fact his reply could be construed as pro Ukrainian doesn't magically make it cool.
 
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Latest reports seem to suggest at least 10 TU-95s with fighter escort and/or other fighters or bombers also with missiles. As touched on above though these strikes are really kind of pathetic - even small scale Western ones have been like 80 missiles.
In fairness, we only know how many missiles are making it to Ukraine. Maybe they are going for 100+ shock and awe launches but the damn things keep just dropping off the pylons into the sea when they try to fire them :P
 
In fairness, we only know how many missiles are making it to Ukraine. Maybe they are going for 100+ shock and awe launches but the damn things keep just dropping off the pylons into the sea when they try to fire them :p

In all fairness - we don't maintain the capacity to replenish at scale either though initial strikes would be far larger than anything Russia has done so far. Worries me a bit really the West has really switched off lately and will be scrambling against any serious threat.

EDIT: On another note though - Storm Shadow/SCALP, some issues the French had aside, seem to be way more effective in reality compared to almost anything out there - while granted the Tomahawks were probably effectively, if not intentionally, acting as a distraction/soaking up AD in the Syrian strikes it was the Storm Shadow/SCALP missiles which were accurately hitting targets the most.
 
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There was some US military guy on LBC at the weekend who said it’s likely he will, he’s placed three generals who control the nuclear arsenal in charge of three divisions who now directly report to him, the guy explained this effectively gives him direct access to order the strikes, would they initiate the order is another question.
It's worth noting that unlike the president of the USA, the president of the Russian federation doesn't actually have the authority to order a nuclear first strike. He has autonomy to initiate a response to an incoming nuclear attack, but that's it.

It's a holdover from Soviet times. If he wanted to use a tactical nuke in response to a conventional attack (I.E invasion of Crimea) he would have to assemble the required ministers (or at least a quorum) and put it to a vote.
 
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