Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Harlequin said:
news.sky.com

Russia flew €140m in cash and captured Western weapons to Iran in return for deadly drones, source claims

A Russian military aircraft secretly transported the cash and three models of munition - a British NLAW anti-tank missile, a US Javelin anti-tank missile and a Stinger anti-aircraft missile - to an airport in Tehran in August, the source told Sky News.
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old, but i didnt see it posted?
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Not ideal but there's nothing there the Iranian's and Russian's don't already know about especially the Stingers which have been around since the 80's. Even if they could reverse engineer the NLAW's and other newer equipment they would struggle to replicate due to restrictions of specialist parts and money would be better spent on producing more basic equipment that can be mass produced.
 
They got the Global Hawk and the first thing they did was make a lame suicide drone, not to say they won't eventually figure it out as even under their silly regime there's still some ingenuity at play but by then it probably won't matter.
 
Harlequin said:
Russia are now shooting down storm shadow

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Unconfirmed reports say that the missile strike was targeted at an airfield in Berdiansk which has taken out a number of aircraft (5 x Ka-52, 9 x Mi-8/Mi-24, 13 x Ka-29)

Again report is unconfirmed - https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWar...ls_reported_up_to_11_explosions_and_multiple/ but given the hard time these helipcopeters have given the Ukrainian's a hard time you would think targeting helicopter bases would be a priority at this time.
 
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Freddie1980 said:
Not ideal but there's nothing there the Iranian's and Russian's don't already know about especially the Stingers which have been around since the 80's. Even if they could reverse engineer the NLAW's and other newer equipment they would struggle to replicate due to restrictions of specialist parts and money would be better spent on producing more basic equipment that can be mass produced.
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That really would undermine Putin’s army - that they cannot R&D themselves.
 
Scougar said:
Thanks for the explanation :) Much appreciated. It didn't make sense to me to use cluster munitions.
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I believe the cluster munitions that they want are not anti-personnel but anti-armour. Their intent is to break them down and use the individual munition units as bomblets for their drone force. The individual bomblets can penetrate over 100mm of armour and would fit perfectly with their drone attack program.
 
steve45 said:
I'm certainly not doubting that is stormshadow/SCALP wreckage, MBDA France markings, and stubby wings look about right.
Yeah they are not immune to being shot down, they are claimed to be low observable but not stealth/non-trackable. I think the early sucess is more down to Russian reluctance to having air defenses running all the time. Likely only unmasked the Pantsir to fire at the last safe moment. When it was detected by longer distance sensors or visually/audibly detected by observers, bearing and direction of travel would have been relayed.
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Initial storm shadow hits were targeting low defence positions and targets. This storm shadow was trying to blow up the Berdyansk military airport where Russia launches its KA52 helicopters from. This airport is defended by multiple anti air systems
 
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Russia spends 22% of all its money on war in Ukraine



it's quite hilarious to see them still try to claim it's not a war; these aren't quite as high as the numbers seen during WW2, but 22% is still a extremely high and means that your country is very much engaged in a big war. For some reference here - after WW2, the Americans have never spent more than 4% of their money on any war, that includes the gulf war, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea etc
 
Grim5 said:
Russia spends 22% of all its money on war in Ukraine



it's quite hilarious to see them still try to claim it's not a war; these aren't quite as high as the numbers seen during WW2, but 22% is still a extremely high and means that your country is very much engaged in a big war. For some reference here - after WW2, the Americans have never spent more than 4% of their money on any war, that includes the gulf war, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea etc
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I find it more surprising they're only at 22% given they're now fighting a war of attrition against NATO supplies from the entirity of Europe, UK and the US, granted the supply is being drip fed but really if Russia were serious about winning they should have really changed things up a gear by now

It's also interesting boths sides of supply in Russia & NATO are equally happy to draw things out for as long as possible for as cheap as possible and it's only Ukraine who wants everything now to end the war as quick as possible, if anything the long war may end up costing more than the quick victory for Ukraine, it's frustrating to see really
 
Freddie1980 said:
Unconfirmed reports say that the missile strike was targeted at an airfield in Berdiansk which has taken out a number of aircraft (5 x Ka-52, 9 x Mi-8/Mi-24, 13 x Ka-29)

Again report is unconfirmed - https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWar...ls_reported_up_to_11_explosions_and_multiple/ but given the hard time these helipcopeters have given the Ukrainian's you would think targeting helicopter bases would be a priority at this time.
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Sounds like a juicy target. Money well spent.
 
Scougar said:
"doing a Reddit". lol (I've actually tried to delete my account on there since I only really use it for Ukraine stuff, and they won't let me comment anyway due to low Karma, even though my account was originally from 2016. It's not a big loss if I can finally get them to delete it). I'm only registered on Twitter for Ukraine as well, as that seems to be a source of recent news instead of getting youtubers delays.
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A lot of the information surfaces on Discord and Telegram first - but it is much more accessible via Twitter :( also a lot of fragmented sources like the chat on http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/ from time to time has some in depth stuff on the Russian strategic bomber activity but is very intermittent. A lot of my information actually came from the chat on a couple of private streams on YouTube from Kyiv but the Ukrainian authorities have asked them to shut down with the recent increase in drone/bombing attacks on Kyiv.
 
Freddie1980 said:
Unconfirmed reports say that the missile strike was targeted at an airfield in Berdiansk which has taken out a number of aircraft (5 x Ka-52, 9 x Mi-8/Mi-24, 13 x Ka-29)

Again report is unconfirmed - https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWar...ls_reported_up_to_11_explosions_and_multiple/ but given the hard time these helipcopeters have given the Ukrainian's a hard time you would think targeting helicopter bases would be a priority at this time.
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That isn't what the link says though, you're not reading it correctly, there isn't a claim that those 25 helicopters have been taken out but rather that's how many were there at the start of June.

Of those 25 there were reportedly 18 present as of the 28th of June and it also mentions some of them flying away...

"Locals reported up to 11 explosions and multiple helicopters fleeing Berdiansk airfield this morning. At the start of June, there were 25+ helicopters on the Berdiansk apron including: - 5 x Ka-52 - 9 x Mi-8/Mi-24 - 13 x Ka-29 As of June 28, there were 18 helicopters on the apron."

So it still seems like good news but it's not destroying 25 helicopters in one go which would have been extraordinarily good! Rather 18 were present, some flew away and we hope that some of the remaining among those 18 were damaged or destroyed and/or some of the facilities took some damage too.
 
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