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I'm not sure why they want these, unless it's "comparable" to the aerosol MLRS systems the Russians are using.
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I think you will find that what you’re seeing is in fact Putin#3 touring his old stomping grounds
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To my knowledge Neither USA, Russia or Ukraine are signed up to that treaty.
As far as I'm aware that's the main one covering the use of cluster munitions. There may be others that cover their use that I'm unaware of though.
Convention on Cluster Munitions - Wikipedia
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So are far as this conflict is concerned, frowned upon but fair game.
M26 bomblet rockets for the m270 MLRS are also classed as cluster munitions, and are perfect for saturation of trenches
But yes some people would have it that we should be negotiating with Russia like some kind of good faith outcome was possible...
Though technically it could be true that Wagner's funding came from the state but was not authorised/intended to that end - but that is really not the case here.
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Probably an option to get rid of old stock where the military wants to change stock. The issue is that it needs dropping from a plane and they're not a really a stand off/glide munition. I guarantee there's a load of manpads in Crimea and that's the issue with regards to suitability. Not being a standoff glide means it puts the fighter at risk. I suspect the US sees glide and standoff cluster munitions weapons being a higher priority to non-standoff cluster munitions.
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As woppy101 alluded to the M26a1 rockets fired by the MLRS/HIMARS platform would be the most likely choice if USA are planning to supply.
For context when fired these deploy over 500 of these with the capability of a self destructing fuse. Though if you looking into it deeper, there are a lot of reports from previous conflicts that suggest the self destructing feature isnt 100% reliable.
Should they announce ATACMS or keep it unknown until they reach the battlefield like Storm Shadow?
Only 4 months to reach F16 type approval! how many months have these 2 pilots been training? Opps they are ready now.
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The sooner the better. Maybe and that is maybe if they get the ruskies killed by a bucket load they will start realising that it is not the best idea to join the war in a foreign country. Now they only make videos that they weren't paid for a few months...pathetic nation.Only 4 months to reach F16 type approval! how many months have these 2 pilots been training? Opps they are ready now.
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Russia are now shooting down storm shadow
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Some were downed, some got through, they probably expect they won't all make it so they fire more than they need to.
I don't think we've claimed they can't be shot down, unlike the Russians with their hypersonics.
I don't think we've claimed they can't be shot down, unlike the Russians with their hypersonics.
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I'm certainly not doubting that is stormshadow/SCALP wreckage, MBDA France markings, and stubby wings look about right.
Yeah they are not immune to being shot down, they are claimed to be low observable but not stealth/non-trackable. I think the early sucess is more down to Russian reluctance to having air defenses running all the time. Likely only unmasked the Pantsir to fire at the last safe moment. When it was detected by longer distance sensors or visually/audibly detected by observers, bearing and direction of travel would have been relayed.
Yeah they are not immune to being shot down, they are claimed to be low observable but not stealth/non-trackable. I think the early sucess is more down to Russian reluctance to having air defenses running all the time. Likely only unmasked the Pantsir to fire at the last safe moment. When it was detected by longer distance sensors or visually/audibly detected by observers, bearing and direction of travel would have been relayed.
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Twitter verse is saying 1 shot down and the rest got through to the airport
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Not sure if this was posted but . . . .
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Russia flew €140m in cash and captured Western weapons to Iran in return for deadly drones, source claims
A Russian military aircraft secretly transported the cash and three models of munition - a British NLAW anti-tank missile, a US Javelin anti-tank missile and a Stinger anti-aircraft missile - to an airport in Tehran in August, the source told Sky News.
old, but i didnt see it posted?
No surprise.
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your not wrong, in GW1 people were caught playing cricket with the unexploded bomblets not knowing what they were, as nobody had much of a clue what was in the rocket as they were brand new to the British army, that’s first hand info as well as my best mate was a launcher operator in GW1. The Iraqis used to call it black rain, as they would see the rocket go over the top of them and then celebrate thinking it had missed, the way they work is they peel like a banana at a predetermined time in flight to then hit the correct target area
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Some of the individual cluster munitions/bomblets being requested are quite small and can be fitted to drones, having a much better Anti-Vehicle punch for their small size than other drone dropped ordnance i.e. bomblets from the Mk20 Rockeye, which is something being considered and asked for by Ukraine, as per this Reuters story from March '23 -
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Exclusive: Ukraine seeks US cluster bombs to adapt for drone use - lawmakers
Ukraine has broadened a request for controversial cluster bombs from the United States to include a weapon that it wants to cannibalize to drop the anti-armor bomblets it contains on Russian forces from drones, according to two U.S. lawmakers.
www.reuters.com
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Can’t read Twitter anymore, can you screen grab?
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