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but im not posting 8 years ago, im posting today about the current situation.

feel free to quote my posts back then and have a discussion about what i said back then

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Imagine how Ukraine feel in all this, they're not even included in talks about their own invasion lol

They were clearly talking about the invasion Ukraine fears is about to happen.

Ukraine hasn't been invaded.....

But you decided to pipe up with that. We all know they haven't gone all in yet, it's kinda the talking point of will they or won't they? So it's easy enough to construe that you meant they haven't at all which several others pointed out is wrong.

So have you updated all the intelligence agencies and told them that they are all wrong and to get their info from you from now on ?
No, kinda agree with what has been put out so far. It's you that still believes the biggest build up of military hardware and soldiers in Europe since the end of the war is just a training exercise.
 
The declaration of independence of LNR and DNR is a mistake. Putin is going to lose the Minsk agreements that they can continue torturing Ukraine with.

Yet there is barely any victory in this at all. It seems like the only viable option to save face and ramp down.

If it ends here, this is not a bad ending at all for us in the west.
 
Buckle up boys, this recognition is about increase tensions tenfold.

I believe the opposite, it is an off-ramp for everyone. Once again, as long as he declares them in current territories - this should not cause any sanctions.

Also, Ukraine has held position that these areas are Russian occupied regardless.

The only thing that can happen now is that there is going to be a lot less likely of shooting across the borders. As Russian troops officially enter the territory.
 
The concern is where he figures the borders should be. He may declare the entire Donetsk and Luhansk areas as independent. That would be a big problem because the current front line is about halfway through those areas.
 
The concern is where he figures the borders should be. He may declare the entire Donetsk and Luhansk areas as independent. That would be a big problem because the current front line is about halfway through those areas.

Through current front-line most likely. So nothing will change as everyone in west already assumed the territory Russian controlled. The hope for locals is that Ukranians/Russian real army wont shoot at one another once Russian army enters officially.

If he declares WHOLE donetsk and luhanks then we're screwed. It's a full on war with Ukraine then. Its not going to just stop there most likely.
 
After parading everyone who's anyone in Russian power and gotten them to say they think those two regions should be recognised as independent I sadly can't see anything but an ultimatum to Kiev to pull away from the borders of those regions immediately or they'll take the rest of them by force.
Really hope I'm wrong and somehow it's de-escalated but after the show earlier can't see it.
 
After parading everyone who's anyone in Russian power and gotten them to say they think those two regions should be recognised as independent I sadly can't see anything but an ultimatum to Kiev to pull away from the borders of those regions immediately or they'll take them by force.
Really hope I'm wrong and somehow it's de-escalated but after the show earlier can't see it.

Love it. One person out of 20 said 'lets recognize WHOLE Donetsk and Luhansk' gets translated into EVERYONE said it.

The sentiment is to recognize them along current frontline. Which changes nothing as Ukraine/NATO/US already see them as Russian occupied.
 
But you decided to pipe up with that.

I did about the current situation which is being discussed, like i said if someone wants to discuss what i said 8 years ago then feel free to quote me on that.
People are banging on as if all intelligence sources are wrong and the Russians have already gone in again.
 
Love it. One person out of 20 said 'lets recognize WHOLE Donetsk and Luhansk' gets translated into EVERYONE said it.

The sentiment is to recognize them along current frontline. Which changes nothing as Ukraine/NATO/US already see them as Russian occupied.

Short of making a fumble of things, nobody in that meeting said anything that wasn't intentional. Hope I'm wrong but if the intention were to keep the status quo Russian won't have needed such a huge force to back it up.
 
Short of making a fumble of things, nobody in that meeting said anything that wasn't intentional. Hope I'm wrong but if the intention is to keep the status quo Russian won't have needed such a huge force to back it up.

It might just be a case of backing up words with a big stick.
 
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