Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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A few groups of A10s and F117s would put the fear of God into the Russians. Don’t underestimate the A10 it’s very capable plane for the role.
F16, A10, F117, SU25 and Mig29 would cover every mission type the Ukrainians would need and form one of the strongest air forces in the region.
Indeed. The CAS mission basically isn't a thing in this war. Too many/capable air defence systems around, with few effective counters. Neither the Ukranians nor the Russians seem to be good at SEAD/Wild Weasel; whether due to tactics, doctrine, or integration of equipment (Ukraine has HARM, but their use is restricted to pre-planned attacks, due to the MIG 29 not officially supporting the HARM).
That's why the helos on both sides do that ridiculously ineffective "lob" tactic with unguided rockets (basically acting as airborne rocket arty) to stay at stand-off ranges.
There's a lot of focus on Ukraine getting the F-16; and a lot of armchair generals comparing the F-16 to the Russian aircraft in BVR combat; but I think the more crucial mission for Ukrainian F-16s would be SEAD and ground attack. F-16 can kick down the door on air-defences and put very accurate bombs on target.
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They don’t, mainly because they’re not designed to. F-16s, F-18s, F-22s and F-35s control the airspace with AWACS on overwatch above and then A-64s and A-10s support the ground forces.
Honestly cannot see the F16 being deployed or useful unless something drastically changes.
I think the use of drones is clearly the way forward for ukraine. And we are seeing higher and higher ranges these suicide drones are capable of.
I am surpised ukraine hasnt created a copy of the shadid drone system.
It could easily be mass manufactured with off the shelf parts and could be used to deplete/ expose current russian anti air assets.
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The F117 are certainly not immune from SAM systems, one was shot down by cleaver and quick thinking Serbian commander in the Kosovo conflict but that was an exception but it would be interesting to see how well the F117 stacks up against current Russian radar.
It won’t. An A10 will make mincemeat out of ground targets and advancing armour and those make up 90% of Russia’s fighting force.
An A10 vs SU25 would be an interesting fight though… would definitely watch. The air role is for fighters and SAM systems.
Was bad mission planning and a lot of luck TBH.
The F16 is a much needed counter for the later generation SU planes Russia operate and allows the Ukrainians many mission capabilities they don’t currently have.
The F-117 has a tiny payload and requires specialist maintenance only performed by probably one team in the USAF; it's a completely ridiculous notion to think Ukraine will get them, could operate them, or that they'd be useful in any meaningful way if they did.
Maybe look for a different Wunderwaffe, because that's not it.
Maybe look for a different Wunderwaffe, because that's not it.
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^ Spicy
Seems like he fit for battle
Seems like he fit for battle
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find it hard to believe unless the ship stopped in that location for a period of time.
I think you've outlined exactly how it does it. Not all civilian shipping is exactly as it seems.
China could be testing global, sub-threshold capabilities; particularly by using "dual-use" assets that aren't going to elicit the same sort of suspicion as -say- a Chinese naval deployment all the way to the Baltic Sea.
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Pretty clever way to do it, if it was a covert op. Doesn't nessicarily mean it was Chinese. Could have been a Russian sub travelling underneath the tanker to remain undetected.
TBH, the sooner European countries stop buying Russian oil and gas, the better.
TBH, the sooner European countries stop buying Russian oil and gas, the better.
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